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    do i have to use PAM?

    I think I have a mite problem and was wondering if i have to use lice or PAM spray to get rid of them or can i just use the reptile spray from petco? I saw my new pinstripe soaking in her water bowl twice last week and when i dumped out her water bowl there were the smallest, maybe the size of a 25g needle tip, black specks in the water bowl. I also saw them in some of my other snake tubs. I was wondering if they were mites or something from the aspen? I have googled snake mites and what i found in the water bowl is not what google has, but now i am concerned. I got the reptile spray....should i just treat them and spray their tubs and enclosures with the reptile spray and use paper towels for a few weeks?
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    What I was told (currently on week 4 or 5 of treating mites) is that the reptile spray kills the mites by drying them out. Provent A Mite is sprayed in the tank and creates a barrier that continues to work for the life cycle of the mites. So if say you don't kill all of them on the animal and a female jumps off and lays eggs in the enclosure when they hatch theoretically they will die. I use both and I also went on a cleaning binge and scrubbed the enclosures with bleach and water, bleached all decorations and baked all wood in the oven for 2 hours. My cages are now bare with a plastic hide, water bowl, and paper towels. All the decorations I took out are now in trash bags that I fogged with PAM as well. I treat the animals once a week and switch out the paper towels...that being said it was my Blueys that got mites since their scales are larger and the mites can wedge themselves under them nicely I am having to treat a little longer than usual it seems.
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    Re: do i have to use PAM?

    Yep. Sounds like mites. I use and recommended PAM. I've had 2 small mite infestations and PAM took care of them in just a few weeks. And yes to paper towels and a weekly soak while you're cleaning out the cage and replacing paper towels.

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    Re: do i have to use PAM?

    Use the reptile spray on the snake. Use the PAM on the enclosures, hides, and paper towels. Once the PAM has completely dried put the snake back in the enclosure.

    Re-treat snake with Reptile Spray every few days, re-treat enclosures, hides, and paper towels whenever the snake makes a mess and you have to clean the enclosure anyway.

    With the Reptile Spray I it easier to spray a paper towel and wipe the snake with it. Reptile Spray on a cotton swab / Q-tip works for under the chin and for applying it to the head so it doesn't get in the snake's eyes.

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    The reptile spray works great. I had a hitch hiker come home from an expo.
    Took about a week or two and they were all gone. Not big on the potential problems with pam. I also like the fact that i can spray on the reptile.

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    The reptile spray works great. I had a hitch hiker come home from an expo.
    Took about a week or two and they were all gone. Not big on the potential problems with pam. I also like the fact that i can spray on the reptile.

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    I only had to treat once using Reptile Spray. Killed them in one shot. The most important thing is being through in your cleaning. Clean everything in, around, or near where the mites are.

    Did you decide to feed instead of starting to treat the mites?
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    Re: do i have to use PAM?

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    I only had to treat once using Reptile Spray. Killed them in one shot. The most important thing is being through in your cleaning. Clean everything in, around, or near where the mites are.

    Did you decide to feed instead of starting to treat the mites?
    only 2 ate but did treat the mites today. it was over 24 hours since eating. i used the only the reptile spray, soaked and cleaned out their tubs/enclosures today. i didn't see any mites in their water after the soak, but sprayed them with the spray. im hoping it is a major infestation since i haven't really seen that many
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    0.1 Normal 100% het hypo….Sarabi 0.1 Lesser…..Kara 0.1 Pinstripe…..Tehla 0.1 Spider….Charlotte
    0.1 Yellowbelly 100% het albino…..Arwen 0.1 Enchi…….Jean 0.1 Black pastel 100% het pied…..Ishta
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    Re: do i have to use PAM?

    Quote Originally Posted by jesst View Post
    only 2 ate but did treat the mites today. it was over 24 hours since eating. i used the only the reptile spray, soaked and cleaned out their tubs/enclosures today. i didn't see any mites in their water after the soak, but sprayed them with the spray. im hoping it is a major infestation since i haven't really seen that many
    Good. I even sprayed the carpet around my tubs and then vacuumed when I got mites.
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    Re: do i have to use PAM?

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    Good. I even sprayed the carpet around my tubs and then vacuumed when I got mites.
    no carpet so im hoping they wont spread.
    1.0 POG…. Surak 1.0 Calico……Caius 1.0 Cinnamon….Jerath 1.0 Enchi…..Xavier
    1.0 Leopard 100% het pied……Aslan 1.0 Black pastel 100% het pied…..Teal’C 1.0 Pied….Apollo
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    0.1 Normal 100% het hypo….Sarabi 0.1 Lesser…..Kara 0.1 Pinstripe…..Tehla 0.1 Spider….Charlotte
    0.1 Yellowbelly 100% het albino…..Arwen 0.1 Enchi…….Jean 0.1 Black pastel 100% het pied…..Ishta
    0.1 GHI……Sena 0.1 pastel........Athena 0.1 normal......Willow 0.1 Ghost.....Persephone 0.1 Lemonblast 100% hypo.....Luna 0.1 Orange dream yellowbelly....Scully 0.1 100% het pied......Daphne 0.1 Mojave.......Trinity 0.1 100% het albino......Astoria 0.1 Black pastel.....Boomer


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    Re: do i have to use PAM?

    I would say ypu don't HAVE to use PAM, but its the best and easiest. You will need to do 3 times the effort with anything besides PAM.
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