Pastel ball has wobble

[MarkS]

Well if it smells like a ceder chest it's probably pretty toxic. The reason ceder used to be so popular for furniture (especially storage chests, armours or drawers) is because it contains a natural insecticide that will kill clothing moths and other fabric munching bugs. I used to use it a lot on rodent cages and never really noticed a problem either but when I got this carpet python she had some really bad neurological issues (head flipping around all over the place, she could barely eat) and the cage she came in contained a deep layer of ceder chips. All the reseach I could find pointed at that being the problem. After about 8 years in my care she's much better, but still has a bit of a head quaver.

[ratfink721]

Yea I've never heard anything good coming from ceder in habitats. I'm learning as I go as well. So I thank everyone for all the helpful tips too.

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[jason_ladouceur]

Well if it smells like a ceder chest it's probably pretty toxic. The reason ceder used to be so popular for furniture (especially storage chests, armours or drawers) is because it contains a natural insecticide that will kill clothing moths and other fabric munching bugs. I used to use it a lot on rodent cages and never really noticed a problem either but when I got this carpet python she had some really bad neurological issues (head flipping around all over the place, she could barely eat) and the cage she came in contained a deep layer of ceder chips. All the reseach I could find pointed at that being the problem. After about 8 years in my care she's much better, but still has a bit of a head quaver.

I'm glad to hear that your carpet has recovered for the most part. And I do agree that it is certainly possible that the cause may have been the toxins it was exposed to from the ceder bedding. The science regarding why pets should not be kept on ceder bedding is perfectly sound, and I would never knowing what I now do that people use it for reptiles. It was mearly an observation on my part because my experience does not line up with everything I've read regarding using it.

[Zombie]

UTH? With or without a thermostat? Heat lamp on a low setting, what does that even mean? No heat source should be without a thermostat. What is your surface temperature on the hot side, what are your ambient temps, and what are you using to measure these temps. I agree its likely heat related.

Id like to know these ^^^ things as well.

OP, Its good that you have a good breeder that is going to swap them for you, but if there is an issue with your husbandry the problem could arise again.

[robadob143]

I think the issue here is that people keep questioning my husbandry. This has been a problem from the day after I received the snakes people. Not like I've had them a month.
*Update*
The female has eaten, and is very active at night and grips well when held.
The male is active at night, has not eaten, and when held has a extremely weak grip, he doesn't wrap up he just kind half ass grips. Any thoughts? I'm thinking parasites, and considering I just bought them less than a week ago, I'm just going to return them for my money back and find a different breeder.

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[satomi325]

Do you handle them? Did you leave them alone after receiving them to adjust? Sometimes if you mess with a snake too often, they get too stressed out and don't eat. I'm guessing that's what's going on with the male rather than parasites.

And the others questioned your husbandry because a temp spike can cause neuro issues right away. It doesn't have to be a long term problem.

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