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    Caramel VS Ultramel

    Hey guys, I was wondering what your thoughts are on caramels and ultramels? A seller offered me a really good price on a female ultramel but he said that for $500 more, he can sell me a double recessive (Caramillo) female. I'm not sure if I want caramel gene because they are known to kink.

    Would you take a Caramillo or a clean ultramel female? Thoughts?

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    Re: Caramel VS Ultramel

    Ultramel only all the way!
    Why taint a perfectly good gene with Caramel?


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    That's what I was thinking. My problem is how do you tell the difference between the two? The seller is a well known breeder so I feel I can trust him but how to be 100% sure?

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    Re: Caramel VS Ultramel

    Caramel on the left ultramel on the right


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    The camarillo is nice, but it kind of looks like a lavender albino to me. I would take the visual ultramel over the double het.
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    0.1 Axanthic Bee (Pixel)
    0.2 Axanthic Pastel (Cornelia, Short Round)
    0.1 Axanthic (Bubbles)
    0.1 Bee het Axanthic (Nipper)
    0.1 Lesser (Lydia)
    0.1 het Lavender (Poppy)
    0.1 het Hypo (Cookie)
    1.0 Killerbee het Axanthic (Yellow Dude)
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    i would love to see how that double-recessive caramel + ultramel looks like, does someone have links to pictures and/or further information?

    recently in different threads there were discussions if a double recessive axanthic, or a double-recessive albino lavender albino would make sense, these have not been done yet. and then someone posted a picture of an albino + lavender albino of a different species, i think burm, and it looked totally awesome.

    so im really curious about this double recessive.
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    There's pics of them on vin russo's site, he's the one who made them.
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    0.1 Axanthic Bee (Pixel)
    0.2 Axanthic Pastel (Cornelia, Short Round)
    0.1 Axanthic (Bubbles)
    0.1 Bee het Axanthic (Nipper)
    0.1 Lesser (Lydia)
    0.1 het Lavender (Poppy)
    0.1 het Hypo (Cookie)
    1.0 Killerbee het Axanthic (Yellow Dude)
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    I have a picture of the caramillo but how do I post it here without using photobucket, etc.? I don't have an account with them.

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    Re: Caramel VS Ultramel

    Heres a pic or a caramel ultramel and the caramillo

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    1.1yellow belly
    1.0 desert enchi
    1.0 pastel
    1.0 het russo
    1.0 lemon pastel
    0.1 spider
    2.0 normal

    1.0 striped corn
    0.1.0 normal corn

    1.0 columbian rianbow boa
    1.0 super hypo bci

    0.2 leopard geckos

    0.1.0 water dragon

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    The "yellow" one (bottom) looks like a Candino.

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