Morph ID discussion

[Kenj620]

Hey everyone I've had this girl for almost 5 years and have always wondered if her pattern was genetic. She was sold to me as a het albino cinnamon along with another het albino cinnamon that really does look like a cinnamon. I think her pattern looks a lot like the blitz morph and she has a very busy belly pattern as well.

I would like to know if anyone has any ideas or knows similar looking morphs. I've been waiting over 4 years and she just laid her first clutch today, 6 good eggs!! I'm so excited to see if the busy pattern trait get carried on to the offspring!

[Kenj620]

I'm just too excited and the eggs are only at day 2. I have a feeling the pattern is genetic but I just hope she is really het albino.

[oOo2-FrEsH-oOo]

Was she bred to an albino pin? If so, heres to more ablino pins.

[Pythonfriend]

its nice, it looks almost green, and i like the pattern.

if it turns out to be passed on genetically, next step would be to try and get a super form.

lori, for example, is a really really subtle gene, but the super form is just amazing.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-lori/

but its always a gamble and a lot of work to try to prove something like that out.

[Kenj620]

Its been the breeding I've been looking forward to the most. I was disappointed she didn't go last year but I'm happy for the 6 good eggs this year.

Here is a belly shot.

[Kenj620]

So heres what I got. The traits of the mother really came through on this clutch. Notice the difference between the 2 albino pins, Doesn't it look like one has the gene from the mother and the other is cleaner and more yellow?

[recessive 222]

Very interesting. It couldjust bethe con cinnamon coming through. Please post more pics in a couple weeks. I m dying to see if this goes anywhere. Let us know the sex of these guys too. The mom is super cool looking.

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[Kenj620]

Heres the whole clutch

[Freakie_frog]

Back years ago people were interchanging Black pastel and Cinni, I'd say that its one or the other more than likely its a Black pastel based on the pattern and color

Here is a really good example of a Black Pastel before they started getting all watered down from people not selective breeding. That even looks like an Albino Cinni or BP
http://vpi.com/sites/default/files/B...VPI)001o_1.jpg

[Pythonfriend]

i think freaky_frog may be on to something here.

as a cinnamon, it doesnt seem to make much sense. it looks more consistent if you assum that its a black pastel. that would at least explain the pattern. im still not sure if it explains the color.