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Re: Exploring
 Originally Posted by DooLittle
Roaming is typically a sign of stress. So them up roaming rather than hiding would indicate stress. Hiding balls=happy balls.
Also, how would you know who's stool is which if you ever had a problem? You wouldn't.
If one stool had a problem, both snakes would be treated.
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Re: Exploring
Not to say I don't appreciate the advice. Like I said, I've been told this is ok!
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Re: Exploring
Ok vs. optimal living conditions. Personally I would never house my balls together except for breeding.
If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.
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Re: Exploring
 Originally Posted by DooLittle
Ok vs. optimal living conditions. Personally I would never house my balls together except for breeding.
I joined this forum to seek advice. You have yet to tell me what's NOT optimal about how I keep my snakes. They hide out in the day, eat good, thermoregulate, they have a 10-12 hour day/night cycle light, I make sure their humidity is how it should be, and they WILL be separated when older.
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Re: Exploring
Well, Imo their own enclosure and hides would be optimal. They are your snakes, keep them how you like. I'm just saying the majority of ball keepers do not house them together, nor "recommend" it.
If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.
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Re: Exploring
IMO, there's no reason why two snakes should be in one enclosure unless it's breeding time.
There are WAY too many cons to outweigh the pros.
Cons:
-One gets sick, so does the other
-Which one got sick?
-Stress for no reason
-Accidental breeding
-Cannibalism
Pros:
-Only one enclosure
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Damn people get off his case each there own.
Good looking BPs and like the skull in the enclosure.
Snakes - Bearded Dragons - Crested Geckos
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Re: Exploring
 Originally Posted by Bobbafett
IMO, there's no reason why two snakes should be in one enclosure unless it's breeding time.
There are WAY too many cons to outweigh the pros.
Cons:
-One gets sick, so does the other
-Which one got sick?
-Stress for no reason
-Accidental breeding
-Cannibalism
Pros:
-Only one enclosure
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For your cons:
Most rack systems- one gets sick, the rest will, too. Also, what reason would one get sick if the husbandry is great?
Stress- where is the stress? They don't show signs of it.
No chance of accidental breeding.
They are fed well, there's no cannibalism, they are also around the same size.
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Re: Exploring
 Originally Posted by Jackie
I joined this forum to seek advice. You have yet to tell me what's NOT optimal about how I keep my snakes. They hide out in the day, eat good, thermoregulate, they have a 10-12 hour day/night cycle light, I make sure their humidity is how it should be, and they WILL be separated when older.
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Actually, I did. Keeping them housed together is not optimal, imo.
 Originally Posted by Spencer88
Damn people get off his case each there own.
Good looking BPs and like the skull in the enclosure.
I also said, keep them how you like. They are yours. However, everybody has opinions, you know what they are like...
If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.
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Re: Exploring
 Originally Posted by Bobbafett
IMO, there's no reason why two snakes should be in one enclosure unless it's breeding time.
There are WAY too many cons to outweigh the pros.
Cons:
-One gets sick, so does the other
-Which one got sick?
-Stress for no reason
-Accidental breeding
-Cannibalism
Pros:
-Only one enclosure
- ??
Beat me to it. I don't know of any real reason to house most species of snakes together. The only reasons I can think of are at the benefit of the owner, NOT the animal. OP, I'm just wondering, what are your reasons for housing together, other than just being told it's "ok"?
Also, keep in mind that just because you haven't had an issue yet doesn't mean it's safe. I've personally seen snakes that were bitten by their cagemates in a mistaken feeding response. I don't know about racks, I don't intend on ever using them, but I also know of snakes that have both gotten sick while being caged together.
They are very pretty snakes though, and I do like your picture. I hope for their benefit you get them into their own cages. No one is trying to be mean, they just want the best for your snakes
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