Split from Scaleless BP - Feeding Live Debate

[BHReptiles]

Just let me put down another name of someone I will never do business with.

OP, how you conduct yourself on the forums goes a long way to either build up or tear down your reputation. Right now, I think you're digging to China with how low your reputation is getting. For me, you have ZERO credibility. I can't trust anything you say and based on some of your comments, I don't think I could trust doing any business with you: buying or selling.

That also means that nothing you say can be taken seriously.

[MasonC2K]

A snake will eventually get hungry enough and take f/t. If not...
Freshly killed √

No. No they won't.

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[Artemisace]

I only have two snakes, a bp and cal king, but you don't see me parading myself around this site like my.... yeah... don't stink. The cal king eats live because he's wild caught, he eats mice which are small but still he eats live. My bp eats live as well, I've tried switching him over to f/t and he just won't have it. He looks the dead rat like I'm stupid and then goes back into his hide. He gives the same reaction to pre killed. Except the one time he killed the rat then got distracted by a bird flying by the window and I held the dead rat in front of him and he took that.... anyway. I would prefer to feed f/t because it is "safer" if done right, but feeding live is safe if you do it right to. I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but I figured why not I'm a bit of newbie when it comes to pythons, I've been keeping colubrids for a lot longer, so there's a newbies perspective for you b.o.s. Please don't scare those that want to learn away.

[satomi325]

My Dumeril's has scares and scabs all over her head, which the previous owner admitted was from feeding live. A snake at the nearest pet store was killed by it's prey about two weeks ago. That's the only personal experience I have, but that's enough for my common sense to say "hmm... Maybe feeding live isn't as swell as people think". Perhaps I'm a hypocrite because I have fed live (when I first started keeping), and I didn't have the materials to euthanize Duma's last meal.

[Pythonfriend]

Wait guys, let me get this right.......


in the other thread i pointed out that i dont think the scales of a BP with normal scales offer any meaningful protection against rat bites.

and that caused the whole thread to go so offtopic that the mods had to splice it, and it turned into an excrementstorm of such epic proportions that it accumulated 72 replies in just 10 hours?

how exactly did that happen?

anyway, its now its own thread about FT/pre-killed versus live.

i think a healthy BP constricts so fast and so hard that the rat has no real chance to bite. and when you notice that the BP is a bit lazy and not constricting hard enough, you take your pliers and pull the rats tail or wiggle the rat a bit and then the BP will constrict it really hard.

i think thats the defense against rat bites. thats why injuries to the snake are so rare when feeding live. they are just damn good at killing rhodents. and when one of the seniors here on the forum says he did 20000 live feedings without serious injury to a BP, i believe it.

and for scaleless BPs, i hope this will not be much different.

[satomi325]

Wait guys, let me get this right.......


in the other thread i pointed out that i dont think the scales of a BP with normal scales offer any meaningful protection against rat bites.

and that caused the whole thread to go so offtopic that the mods had to splice it, and it turned into an excrementstorm of such epic proportions that it accumulated 72 replies in just 10 hours?

how exactly did that happen?

anyway, its now its own thread about FT/pre-killed versus live.

i think a healthy BP constricts so fast and so hard that the rat has no real chance to bite. and when you notice that the BP is a bit lazy and not constricting hard enough, you take your pliers and pull the rats tail or wiggle the rat a bit and then the BP will constrict it really hard.

i think thats the defense against rat bites. thats why injuries to the snake are so rare when feeding live. they are just damn good at killing rhodents. and when one of the seniors here on the forum says he did 20000 live feedings without serious injury to a BP, i believe it.

and for scaleless BPs, i hope this will not be much different.

I suppose so...
And I do agree with you for the most part..

[sho220]

and when one of the seniors here on the forum says he did 20000 live feedings without serious injury to a BP, i believe it.

Robin (Rabernet) is a she, not a he...

[Artemisace]

and for scaleless BPs, i hope this will not be much different.

I can see people being a little more weary of feeding live to scaleless bps because IF it were to happen I think it might be a worse injury. That being said I have no experience in the matter as far as scaleless snakes go so I'm just guessing here.

[BHReptiles]

Robin (Rabernet) is a she, not a he...

I feel bad for Robin...always being called a "he". <3

[Neal]

A snake will eventually get hungry enough and take f/t. If not...
Freshly killed √

I've talked to you about this when you stated this in another thread. This is far from the truth.

On a side note, I'm not sure why you keep posting stuff like this because all you're doing is making people angry with you and while I know you said you're not here to make friends. At some point you're not going to end up getting ignored by the entire site so nobody will see you post and you'll end up talking to yourself. You need to chill man. Remember what I said the other day about improving your image in the hobby?

Everytime I see you take a step forward with a nice apology or something right, within that same 24 hour window you're taking 2 steps back. Chill before everybody ignores you.