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    Did I strike out?

    OK, I have suspected that my dinker male is a fire, so, I paired him with a normal female that had similar pattern but normal coloration. Here are pics of the parents and of the hatchlings. Please give me your opinions, did I strike out or is the male just a light colored normal?




    4.11.3 Normals, 1.1 Fire, 0.1 spider, 0.3 Pastel, 1.0 Super Cinny, 0.1 Cinny, 1.1 pinstripe, 1.1 Mojave, 1.0 Firefly, 1.3 Yellowbellies, 1.2 Het. Pied, 1.0 Pied, 1.0 Mystic, 0.1 Pinstripe het. Albinoo, 0.1 Lesser het. Albino, 1.1 Enchi, 1.0 Calico Pastel, 0.1 Calico, 0.1 Sable, 0.1 Vanilla, 1.1 VPI Axanthic, 0.1 het. VPI Axanthic, 0.1 het. Clown, 1.0 Bumblebee, 0.1 Orange Ghost, 1.0 Champaign, 1.0 Albino, 0.1 het. Albino, 1.1 Black Pastel, 1.1 Dumerils, 1.1 BCI, 1.0 ATB, 1.0 Childrens Python, 3.2.1 Bearded Dragons, 0.0.1 Timor Monitor

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    That male sure looks like a fire to me. But there's no way to tell for sure unless you try again. Same thing happened to me with my granite x normal pairing this year. Babies all look pretty normal so I have no idea if he's not genetic or if I just hit bad odds.

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    Yeah just cause the odds say you'll get something, doesn't mean you will. Friend of mine bred a het pied X het pied, with the female laying 9 eggs, and NOT A SINGLE PIED.

    Sometimes you just get the short end of the stick
    1.0 firefly ball python
    1.0 100% Pastel het clown ball python
    1.0 Enchi ball python
    1.0 Super Pastel 100% het pied (Richard)
    0.1 Butter 100% het ghost
    0.1 Pastel 100% het pied (Keira)
    0.1 Butter 50% het Ghost Ball Python (Penny)
    0.1 100% het Ghost
    0.1 Normal Ball Python (Irwin)
    0.1 Mojave Ball Python (Eve)
    0.1 Black Bee Ball Python (Charolette)
    0.1 Pintripe (Olivia)
    0.1 Dumeril's Boa (Peaches)
    1.0 Bearded Dragon (Dude)

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    looks fireish to me the odds are not always great in the last two years i paired a albino female with a male spider het albino 18 eggs no albinos at all and only one spider het albino but its better than no eggs at all

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    Re: Did I strike out?

    From what I understand, fires tend to lighten as they age, so, I'll raise them up for a while and see what happens. I guess the only way to truly determine if he is in fact a fire is to breed him back to one of the females from this clutch and see what happens.
    4.11.3 Normals, 1.1 Fire, 0.1 spider, 0.3 Pastel, 1.0 Super Cinny, 0.1 Cinny, 1.1 pinstripe, 1.1 Mojave, 1.0 Firefly, 1.3 Yellowbellies, 1.2 Het. Pied, 1.0 Pied, 1.0 Mystic, 0.1 Pinstripe het. Albinoo, 0.1 Lesser het. Albino, 1.1 Enchi, 1.0 Calico Pastel, 0.1 Calico, 0.1 Sable, 0.1 Vanilla, 1.1 VPI Axanthic, 0.1 het. VPI Axanthic, 0.1 het. Clown, 1.0 Bumblebee, 0.1 Orange Ghost, 1.0 Champaign, 1.0 Albino, 0.1 het. Albino, 1.1 Black Pastel, 1.1 Dumerils, 1.1 BCI, 1.0 ATB, 1.0 Childrens Python, 3.2.1 Bearded Dragons, 0.0.1 Timor Monitor

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    I would keep an eye on the one with the light head color, upper right in the pic. It might be a fire.

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    Here are a few Head Pattern and body shots for your. They are Embers or Sulfurs...





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    Looks like normals to me.

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    Re: Did I strike out?

    They do look normal to me, however I have hatched Fires that took awhile to really look like Fires. If it doesn't make a difference to you, I would say keep the babies and see if they start to get lighter as they get older. However, I would say that it is safe to bet they are normals. That doesn't necessarily mean you struck out on the male being a Fire. Maybe he is. The odds may have just been really NOT in your favor for this clutch. I would try to breed him again and if you get the same results then maybe he is just a really nice normal. I hope he fathers some Fires for you! Good luck!
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    Re: Did I strike out?

    I'm thinking the odds gods aren't with me this year. My second clutch was 5 eggs, spider x normal and I had 4 normal and 1 spider hatch. My last clutch is cinny x normal, 5 days left till hatch day, wish me better luck with these.
    4.11.3 Normals, 1.1 Fire, 0.1 spider, 0.3 Pastel, 1.0 Super Cinny, 0.1 Cinny, 1.1 pinstripe, 1.1 Mojave, 1.0 Firefly, 1.3 Yellowbellies, 1.2 Het. Pied, 1.0 Pied, 1.0 Mystic, 0.1 Pinstripe het. Albinoo, 0.1 Lesser het. Albino, 1.1 Enchi, 1.0 Calico Pastel, 0.1 Calico, 0.1 Sable, 0.1 Vanilla, 1.1 VPI Axanthic, 0.1 het. VPI Axanthic, 0.1 het. Clown, 1.0 Bumblebee, 0.1 Orange Ghost, 1.0 Champaign, 1.0 Albino, 0.1 het. Albino, 1.1 Black Pastel, 1.1 Dumerils, 1.1 BCI, 1.0 ATB, 1.0 Childrens Python, 3.2.1 Bearded Dragons, 0.0.1 Timor Monitor

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