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She looks like a normal.
But in your last picture, it looks like she may have some train tracks on the bottom half of her? So maybe she could be carrying the pied gene? Do you know what the parents were?
She's pretty cool looking though. Very busy patten and stripe on the front half of her, then very clean patterned in the back. 
My Balls- Boys- Super Chocolate, Butter Enchi Ghost, Lemonblast, Mojave Sable ph hypo, Genetic Stripe, 2 66% Het Pieds, Bumblebee, Clown, Normal
Girls- 18 Normals (Het Hypo, Albino, Genetic Stripe, Pied, Caramel), 2 Lemonblasts, Sable ph hypo, Sable ph VPI, Pastave, Mystic, Enchi, Vanilla, 2 Cinnys, Bumblebee, 2 YB, 2 Spiders (1 het hypo), Lesser het hypo, 2 Pastels, Mojave ph hypo, Super Pastel, Superfly, Pinstripe, Spotnose ph VPI, and Albino.
My Boas- 1. Hypo het albino (Pierre'), .3 Anery het Albino (Avery, Ariel, Punky Bruster), 1.1 DH Snow (Jazmine, Sebastian), .1 het Albino (Cookie) 1.1 Sunglows
My Carpets- 1.2 JCP, .1 Tiger
My Rosies- .1 Dome Rock (Ella, the one who started it all), .1 Albino Whitewater (Teeny), and 1. Otay Lake Unicolor (Cash)
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Nope. No idea on her parents. I thought the same thing about the pied markers. I have a male normal (bought from the same Guy...he was supposed to be female) who has a clear belly with het pied markers. I'll be breeding them together when she gets big enough.
Ball Pythons:
1.0 Hypo Clown; 1.0 Enchi Freeway; 0.1 Ivory pos. pastel, super pastel, butter (Penelope); 0.1 Hypo Chocolate GHI Pastel pos Vanilla (Smokey); 0.1 YB pied; 0.1 enchi YB/asphalt; 0.1 VPI Axanthic (Special Cookies); 0.1 Albino pos YB; 0.1 Hypo Clown; 0.1 Hypo Spinner
Colubrids:
1.0 Coachwhip; 1.0 Lavender ph hypo hoggie; 0.1 het hypo ph lavender hoggie (Fingermuncher)
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I don't know if I see anything but a nice clean normal. Then again I'm awful about spotting the het pied markers, so don't count on my word.
1.1 Ball Pythons
a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020
3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)
Fish:
1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins), 2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)
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Re: Could She Be A Morph?
 Originally Posted by smalltimeballz
Nope. No idea on her parents. I thought the same thing about the pied markers. I have a male normal (bought from the same Guy...he was supposed to be female) who has a clear belly with het pied markers. I'll be breeding them together when she gets big enough.
I think your best bet to prove her out would be to breed her to a visual pied. It's kind of silly to breed a possible het to a possible het. Unless get any visuals, you still won't know anything more than what you started with
Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla
Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua
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Could She Be A Morph?
Just curious, did you ever contact the breeder and let them know what was sold to you? If you paid for a male and got a female, you didn't get ripped off, you got a deal, as long as she proves out. I'm wondering if maybe it was an honest mistake and they might try to make it right if you let them know?
Then again I could be completely wrong. Just curious though...
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Re: Could She Be A Morph?
Originally Posted by cschneider
Just curious, did you ever contact the breeder and let them know what was sold to you? If you paid for a male and got a female, you didn't get ripped off, you got a deal, as long as she proves out. I'm wondering if maybe it was an honest mistake and they might try to make it right if you let them know?
Then again I could be completely wrong. Just curious though...
I did contact him (I don't think he was a breeder) and he told me that just mis-herd him. I was supposed to have bought a proven female spider who had laid a clutch of 6 eggs and a proven male pastel...the spider is male as well as the pastel. He tried to tell me when I contacted him that the pastel was a proven female @500g because "you do know that they lose weight when they have a clutch". And a male VPI Axanthic (the pictured female above) and a female normal hatchling (really a male). I was supposed to have two 1.1 breeding pairs and ended up with 3.1. That is why I doubt that this girl is Axanthic as well.
And for the person saying that I should use a visual pied, I would if I had one... and I do want a pied pair but my budget doesn't allow for one yet...and the little normal male looks really nice (some flames, blushing, Micky mouse head stamp) & I just need a reason to justify keeping the Lil Guy. And he doesn't prove out, it'll still be fun. Plus I'm hoping beyond hope that I didn't get too ripped off as well.
Ball Pythons:
1.0 Hypo Clown; 1.0 Enchi Freeway; 0.1 Ivory pos. pastel, super pastel, butter (Penelope); 0.1 Hypo Chocolate GHI Pastel pos Vanilla (Smokey); 0.1 YB pied; 0.1 enchi YB/asphalt; 0.1 VPI Axanthic (Special Cookies); 0.1 Albino pos YB; 0.1 Hypo Clown; 0.1 Hypo Spinner
Colubrids:
1.0 Coachwhip; 1.0 Lavender ph hypo hoggie; 0.1 het hypo ph lavender hoggie (Fingermuncher)
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Re: Could She Be A Morph?
Originally Posted by SnowShredder
I think your best bet to prove her out would be to breed her to a visual pied. It's kind of silly to breed a possible het to a possible het. Unless get any visuals, you still won't know anything more than what you started with
Also, I think I should try a 1.0 VPI Axanthic het pied...I know where to get one, but he is sadly out of my budget as well. That would prove if she is really an Axanthic or het pied.
Darn budgets...lol
Ball Pythons:
1.0 Hypo Clown; 1.0 Enchi Freeway; 0.1 Ivory pos. pastel, super pastel, butter (Penelope); 0.1 Hypo Chocolate GHI Pastel pos Vanilla (Smokey); 0.1 YB pied; 0.1 enchi YB/asphalt; 0.1 VPI Axanthic (Special Cookies); 0.1 Albino pos YB; 0.1 Hypo Clown; 0.1 Hypo Spinner
Colubrids:
1.0 Coachwhip; 1.0 Lavender ph hypo hoggie; 0.1 het hypo ph lavender hoggie (Fingermuncher)
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Re: Could She Be A Morph?
Originally Posted by smalltimeballz
And for the person saying that I should use a visual pied, I would if I had one... and I do want a pied pair but my budget doesn't allow for one yet...and the little normal male looks really nice (some flames, blushing, Micky mouse head stamp) & I just need a reason to justify keeping the Lil Guy. And he doesn't prove out, it'll still be fun. Plus I'm hoping beyond hope that I didn't get too ripped off as well.
I understand you may not be able to afford a visual pied, but my main point is that breeding a possible het to a possible het (unless it's a brand spanking new morph) is just senseless. Say one is het and the other isn't. You'll get a clutch full of normals and will have no clue which of the parents are het and you will have no idea if either of them are hets in the first place. You might as well be breeding a couple normals together.
Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla
Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua
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Do you think he said het vpi axanthic? Sex could easily be mistaken, or lied about I suppose. Of course, people can lie about hets too, but I've spoke with a lot of people that didn't hear the "het" part when the snake was sold.
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. She is really difficult to photograph as well. Also, she is 660 grams.
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