Hybrid question

[Anya]

If you bred a Cali King Het. for Albino to a Texas Rat Het. for Albino, could you produce cali/tex albinos?

Do the albino lines "mix"?

I've been dying to know the answer. Anyone? Anyone?

[wilomn]

All the babies would be possible het for both albinisms.

I have bred and albino calking to an albino corn and gotten all albino babies.

[Anya]

Hmm. Very interesting! But they wouldn't produce any visible albinos? Their individual albinism genes don't mesh together?

[MootWorm]

Wow. I would assume since wilomn got albino babies that you would at least get some visuals from your proposed pairing (statistically speaking, if they are in fact compatible). Very interesting.

[Anya]

Not saying I *will* do it, just curious. I would really like to find a Leucistic Texas Rat, Het for albino, but they seem pretty rare. This is just kind of a breeding experiment in my head....If it turned out, it would be sweet, imo. Still haven't quite decided where I stand on hybrids, ethically, though. I should probably figure that out, first.

[MootWorm]

Not saying I *will* do it, just curious. I would really like to find a Leucistic Texas Rat, Het for albino, but they seem pretty rare. This is just kind of a breeding experiment in my head....If it turned out, it would be sweet, imo. Still haven't quite decided where I stand on hybrids, ethically, though. I should probably figure that out, first.

Haha yes that *might* be kind of important. I wasn't sure if you were planning/already had done it It would be super cool genetically though.

[wilomn]

Since both parents in my crossing were albinos I was not too surprised when all the babies were albinos. Neither parent can produce melanin so none of the babies had it.

I've bred albino to non albino in the past, gotten hets and then had albinos in subsequent generations, but this is the first time I ever bred albino to albino and it's the only time I've had all albino babies.

Since your crosses would all be possible hets all would have melanin and carrying, maybe, the albino gene for both parents.

I don't do much with 66%ers, at least not on purpose, so I don't have any first hand experience there. I have crossed albino to normal many times though.

It's always interesting to see what pops up in these species crosses. I did rubyeye calking to pacific gopher last year and kept a pair of those that will probably go in '14, maybe '15. I'm not really pushing them though they are excellent eaters. That should be interesting.

[liv]

Since both parents in my crossing were albinos I was not too surprised when all the babies were albinos. Neither parent can produce melanin so none of the babies had it.

I've bred albino to non albino in the past, gotten hets and then had albinos in subsequent generations, but this is the first time I ever bred albino to albino and it's the only time I've had all albino babies.

Since your crosses would all be possible hets all would have melanin and carrying, maybe, the albino gene for both parents.

I don't do much with 66%ers, at least not on purpose, so I don't have any first hand experience there. I have crossed albino to normal many times though.

It's always interesting to see what pops up in these species crosses. I did rubyeye calking to pacific gopher last year and kept a pair of those that will probably go in '14, maybe '15. I'm not really pushing them though they are excellent eaters. That should be interesting.

I didn't realize that colubrids hybridized so readily. Would you mind posting a thread showing yours off? I haven't seen too many and am super interested!

[wilomn]

Albino Jungle Corn from albino parents



Albino Jungles



Bad body shot of Albino Jungle



Pacific Gopher RubyEye Calking Cross

[MarkS]

Hmm. Very interesting! But they wouldn't produce any visible albinos? Their individual albinism genes don't mesh together?

It's really not THAT unusual that they share many of the same genes. They are after all both snakes, I'm sure all snakes share many different genes with each other, for instance we also share 97.3% of our genes with chimps. Also I find it handy to try to not think of it so much as a gene for albino, I like to think of it instead as a gene for 'something broken that now makes the production of melanin impossible.