Het clown markers

[Gerardo]

I know markers are not a sure way of telling if a snake is het for something. I have a mojave thats 50% het clown. Didnt get him for the clown gene (that was just a little bonus). I just wanted to know what a mojave het clown "looks" like.

[snakesRkewl]

post a picture of the snake or email it to me @ snakesrkewl@gmail.com and I might be able to give you an educated guess.

[dprballs]

I dont think there are any widely accepted het clown markers are there? Ive seen vids on you tube about lines on the tail but thats it, and only 1 guys theory? A mojave het clown looks like a mojave! Although lots of clowns are said to throw out mad hets. I have two 100% het clowns, perfectly normal looking(ones a pastel)!

[satomi325]

Color and/or pattern are the markers. Just like visual morphs, clown hets have good and bad examples.
A good example of a clown Het looks very different from a regular counterpart. My pastel Het clown is very very bright and clean. The clown gene tends to brighten and cleans up codom morphs. Sometimes gives them a funky pattern. Its not as visual in the wildtype version.

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[dprballs]

Color and/or pattern are the markers. Just like visual morphs, clown hets have good and bad examples.
A good example of a clown Het looks very different from a regular counterpart. My pastel Het clown is very very bright and clean. The clown gene tends to brighten and cleans up codom morphs. Sometimes gives them a funky pattern. Its not as visual in the wildtype version.

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I disagree. A het isnt meant to look good, its meant to make clowns. A good example of a het clown to me would be one that makes nice clowns, no matter how normal they look. I've seen some stunning clowns from normal looking hets!

[satomi325]

That's only if you think they are a true recessive, which I and many others don't believe they are. They have codom tendencies like Pieds on other morphs, which indicates the possibility of being just a subtle codom like paint, Spector, etc. Look at more examples of morph Het clowns and tell me you still disagree. Read more clown threads here, on Facebook breeder pages, other forums, and from reputable clown breeders themselves. They are not so recessive than you think.

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[FireStorm]

Here's a pic of our Mojave 100% Het Clown. He looks pretty different from our Mojaves that are not hets.

[BrianB801]

That's only if you think they are a true recessive, which I and many others don't believe they are. They have codom tendencies like Pieds on other morphs, which indicates the possibility of being just a subtle codom like paint, Spector, etc. Look at more examples of morph Het clowns and tell me you still disagree. Read more clown threads here, on Facebook breeder pages, other forums, and from reputable clown breeders themselves. They are not so recessive than you think.

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So basically a "het clown" is actually a "clown" and a "visual clown" would be a "super clown"? That is what this theory means?

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[dprballs]

So basically a "het clown" is actually a "clown" and a "visual clown" would be a "super clown"? That is what this theory means?

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yes but its (badly)flawed. Not all het pieds have tramlines, not all het clowns look any different.

Are you suggesting you ciould accurately pick the hets from a het to normal pairing?? Ive done plenty of reading. Some hets look mad, some dont!

[Gerardo]

Here he is Mojave 50% het clown