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    fair price?

    For a month now I’ve been on the look out for breeding size 100% het pied females, and have seen a wide range of prices. I wouldn’t be posting on here for a price check if I hadn’t really looking around, and am still a little confused. I’ve heard of het pieds going for cheap, but every breeding size female on kingsnake and fauna are in the multiple hundreds ($400-$800).
    I was offered 2 sub adult size 100% het pied females (768g and 952g) from a guy that is down and out and needs the money. He’s local so it would be a pickup. They were the result of a pied x het pied clutch. Is $250 fair for the two?
    Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
    Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla

    Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua

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    fair price?

    Honestly if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. Normals that size I would say go for maybe 65-75 a peice at that size. Add in that their het pied. Someone else with more experience may chime in thiugh

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    If they really are het pied and female i'd say that's a very good price.

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    fair price?

    $250 is fair if they are even only normals. Question is, do you trust them to be hets? "Cheap" hets are usually hatchlings. The $400-800 prices you're seeing are about right for breeder females.
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    fair price?

    The convenience of a ready-to-breed female adds a lot of value to any morph.

    $250 is a great deal, as long as they are indeed females and 100% het pied. Even if the breeder is local, do your BOI homework if you haven't done business with them before.

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    I'm worried that it is too good to be true also. He picked them up from another local breeder (going to get the name so I can contact them). Supposedly it was the dams first time breeding, pied x het pied. Supposedly he "is in a rut" and "in a situation where he really needs the money".
    Do you think that it is worth the risk? I've been in contact with him for several days and he seems like a nice guy, and has given all the information I've asked so far, but I know that doesn't mean much.
    Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
    Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla

    Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua

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    Personally I'd say it's a pretty good price but not a ridiculously low one. And remember that even though they have some size to them and 'might' be ready to breed in another year doesn't mean they actually will. I've had several females go 5-6 years before actually producing a clutch of eggs (and some that still haven't produced after an even longer period of time) This is why a 'PROVEN' breeder is worth so much more.

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    $250 isn't a bad deal on two females coming up on breeding size.
    Proven females, that would be an "each" price and proven het pieds would be double that easily.
    A lot of time and rats go into a breeding size female.
    The short-cut on your male pied, I don't know what size your other girls are BUT I would get these two and either make your own KNOWN 100% hets with one and pair one of your other males with the other one.
    Then again I would also pair the pied and the bee for hets too and make it worth the grow out time

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    Re: fair price?

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    $250 isn't a bad deal on two females coming up on breeding size.
    Proven females, that would be an "each" price and proven het pieds would be double that easily.
    A lot of time and rats go into a breeding size female.
    The short-cut on your male pied, I don't know what size your other girls are BUT I would get these two and either make your own KNOWN 100% hets with one and pair one of your other males with the other one.
    Then again I would also pair the pied and the bee for hets too and make it worth the grow out time

    I have plans for my current breeding size females, so I'm thinking even if these girls turn out to be normal (I sure hope not..) then you're right, I'd have known 100% hets.
    The only "normals" I've ever bought was my first boa and my first ball and have not considered any more since. In any case though, you can never have enough females.
    Basically what I'm getting from everyone is, if they don't turn out to be hets I will lose some money, though not a huge amount. And resulting offspring would be hets. If they do turn out to be hets then I got a good deal.
    Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
    Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla

    Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua

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    keep in mind that even if they are REAL hets, they might take a couple seasons to prove out too

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