Think I'm in the process of getting ripped off...

[ChaosAffect]

It's already been five days. There's nothing a thread on BOI is going to do tonight that it won't do tomorrow. I have him until tomorrow evening to contact me with tracking info. In the meantime I will be working on the BOI post in case he doesn't come through, though.

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[TheSnakeGeek]

It's already been five days. There's nothing a thread on BOI is going to do tonight that it won't do tomorrow. I have him until tomorrow evening to contact me with tracking info. In the meantime I will be working on the BOI post in case he doesn't come through, though.

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a thread on the BOI may very well put some pep in his step.

[ChaosAffect]

a thread on the BOI may very well put some pep in his step.

True, but I already told him I'd give him until tomorrow. I don't know about him, but I stand by my word.

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[loonunit]

BoI threads are forever. I wouldn't use them lightly. Sounds like maybe he's earning one... but I agree that using it to prod him probably isn't the right thing to do. I like that you're giving him until a deadline before posting to the BoI.

[Royal Hijinx]

Yeah, I agree you give him the deadline, then post it up.

[Annarose15]

As much as I hate to add to your concerns, I would be very nervous about receiving an animal from someone who's "starting a business" but either didn't know he had to be Fedex-certified to ship on his own, or knew and was blatantly trying to circumvent the system. If he didn't know, does he know how to properly pack the snake? If he was trying to cut corners, will he do the same in packing? I wish you the best of luck in a good resolution, and agree with the others that a BOI posting should be in order regardless of the final outcome.

[ChaosAffect]

As much as I hate to add to your concerns, I would be very nervous about receiving an animal from someone who's "starting a business" but either didn't know he had to be Fedex-certified to ship on his own, or knew and was blatantly trying to circumvent the system. If he didn't know, does he know how to properly pack the snake? If he was trying to cut corners, will he do the same in packing? I wish you the best of luck in a good resolution, and agree with the others that a BOI posting should be in order regardless of the final outcome.

It was one of those "New guy thinking slightly less new guy is veteran" type situations. :facepalm:

[DooLittle]

It's already been five days. There's nothing a thread on BOI is going to do tonight that it won't do tomorrow. I have him until tomorrow evening to contact me with tracking info. In the meantime I will be working on the BOI post in case he doesn't come through, though.

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What it could do is protect or spare somebody else from having this problem with him.

[Annarose15]

What it could do is protect or spare somebody else from having this problem with him.

Although I agree with you Doo, I think it's appropriate that he is honoring the deadline that he gave the guy before posting.

[Kaorte]

Ask him to mail your snake back to you. I think that you should not go through with the trade at this point. Who knows if he even has the animal he says he does.

I understand you wanting to wait to make the BOI thread, but he clearly does not feel threatened by that. Does he even have an account on Fauna? If he is new to the hobby, he might not even have any idea it exists, which means, he probably wouldn't even notice the thread until you notified him of it.


In the future, don't do deals with people that don't have feedback of some sort. Whether its buyer or seller feedback, any feedback is better than no feedback. Facebook can be easily manipulated to make you look like a stand up guy when really you are trying to scam people out of animals.

The excuses are a huge red flag to me, as well as the lack of communication.


As for future trades, either conduct them in person with people you trust, reputable breeders, or don't do them at all.

What it could do is protect or spare somebody else from having this problem with him.

Sorry but one day is not going to make a whole lot of a difference. It is unlikely that this person is scamming a bunch of people all at once and doesn't have a BOI about them already. Many people who post negative BOIs usually wait until the very end of their experience and post a full summary. While a BOI is helpful for other people to judge the character of sellers/buyers, it is equally not helpful for those who don't even realize the BOI exists, like many of the people that frequent the reptile classifieds on facebook.

OP has a duty to honor his word. Whether the other party will honor their word is unclear at this time. But at least OP knows they were courteous and more than accommodating when they go and make a negative BOI post, rather than going behind the other persons back.