Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 669

2 members and 667 guests
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,903
Threads: 249,098
Posts: 2,572,070
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, wkeith67
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16
  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    01-16-2013
    Location
    Calgary, AB
    Posts
    301
    Thanks
    46
    Thanked 51 Times in 49 Posts

    Is it too late to breed low end morphs 3 years from now?

    Hi guys, I'm planning on going to a reptile expo in 4 months saving some money up for it but is it still worth buying low ebd morph females like pastels albinos pieds pinstripes butters lessers and may e some yellow bellys? Would it be to late to breed them the time info breed them will the snakes be worth nothing? I'm just curios cause I would like to make my money back on this investment. I'm not planing to make a full out business out of this but I would like to make my money back juts on the snakes not including racks food and what now just the snakes and I would like to invest that profit back into some high end morphs.... I'm just wondering 3 years from now will people still be looking for pieds albinos spider albinos and ivorys or will most of the stuff I plan to produce be dead? I'm going to breed pieds no matter what as I would love to hatch out my very own high white pied... But the main question I'm asking is will it be to late the time they are breeding size?

  2. #2
    Registered User qegalpal's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-28-2009
    Location
    Palm Beach, FL
    Posts
    179
    Thanks
    100
    Thanked 53 Times in 37 Posts
    Images: 31
    Buy what appeals to you. There will always be a market for the
    so called low end morphs, mainly because they play well with others, gene wise.
    You MIGHT be able to get your money back, but don't count on it. Do it because you
    love it/them, the bps, and you can't lose. Otherwise, don't bother, because it can be a lot of work
    and if you don't love the journey, everyone loses.
    When the power of love overcomes the love of power,
    then we will know peace. Jimi Hendrix

  3. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to qegalpal For This Useful Post:

    + Show/Hide list of the thanked

    Archimedes (03-22-2013),Emilio (03-22-2013),Foschi Exotic Serpents (03-22-2013),h00blah (03-22-2013),jben (03-23-2013),liv (03-22-2013),Melissuhhh (03-24-2013),Michelle1221 (03-22-2013),Raven01 (03-22-2013),SnowShredder (03-22-2013),sorraia (03-24-2013),whispersinmyhead (03-22-2013)

  4. #3
    BPnet Senior Member liv's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-06-2012
    Location
    Guelph, ON
    Posts
    1,430
    Thanks
    1,027
    Thanked 1,179 Times in 625 Posts
    I'm sure there will still be a market.
    In terms of making your investment back... I wouldn't count on it. You might, but there are a lot of things that can go wrong. It might be easier if you think of the money you spent on them as gone, and whatever you make from the hatchlings can be an added bonus of keeping them. That's my outlook at least.

  5. #4
    BPnet Senior Member Royal Hijinx's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-01-2011
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    3,842
    Thanks
    1,120
    Thanked 1,989 Times in 1,155 Posts
    The short answer is yes.

    You need to ensure they are the best possible examples though. So start with solid parents.

  6. #5
    BPnet Lifer MrLang's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-13-2011
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    2,530
    Thanks
    726
    Thanked 1,456 Times in 831 Posts
    Images: 8
    People still breed corn snakes and sell morphs for 20-60 dollars. Do it for the passion of the hobby, not for cash. If you get into this for cash, you'll meet the fate of quite a few hobby breeders. Somewhere a year or 2 down the line you'll have spent a few grand on snakes, get tired of dealing with rats and poop and water bowls and the cost of bedding and food, and try to get your money back on craiglist, where you'll wind up selling your collection for less than half what you paid for it.

    Some morphs are 'bottoming out' in price - as in you will never see a pastel (most basic morph) selling for less than a pet shop has fixed their price for a normal bp, which is about 75 dollars. 75 dollars will always make your cost back on 'producing' the animal. Will it make your money back on the purchase of the parents?

    If you sell enough...
    Dreamtime Exotics -- Check it out!
    Ball Pythons, Monitors, Saltwater Reef, Fancy Rats, Ferrets

  7. #6
    BPnet Lifer PghBall's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-20-2009
    Location
    Pleasant Hills, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    2,683
    Thanks
    996
    Thanked 1,191 Times in 952 Posts
    Images: 5

    Re: Is it too late to breed low end morphs 3 years from now?

    There will always be a market for the the single gene morphs in my opinion. There are many out there who just can't afford to throw a couple thousand down on any one multi-gene BP. I agree with the other replies though, you will most likely not make a profit on them and have to look at caring for multiple hatchlings until you find homes for them. I am still caring for 6 2012 hatchlings while I wait for potential buyers. I look at any money I do receive for them as going towards paying for their upkeep (bedding, rat block, paper towels, etc). Most breeders will tell you that the amount of time you put into your collection far outweighs any money you receive from selling hatchlings as far as profitability.
    - Greg

    Visit our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/412Balls/



    or our website: http://412balls.weebly.com/

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to PghBall For This Useful Post:

    Archimedes (03-22-2013)

  9. #7
    BPnet Royalty 4theSNAKElady's Avatar
    Join Date
    01-19-2006
    Location
    my cozy hide
    Posts
    4,889
    Thanks
    231
    Thanked 1,287 Times in 921 Posts
    Images: 92

    Re: Is it too late to breed low end morphs 3 years from now?

    Im not trying to be mean, rude, or anything like that, just real...dont invest if you're doing it for the money. Cuz chances are, you wont get your money back. Theres a million possible things that could happen that will COST you more money.. unexpected vet bills, unexpected fasts, etc,. Invest for the love of the hobby and the experience

    Sent from my H866C using Tapatalk 2
    ALL THAT SLITHERS - Ball Python aficionado/keeper
    breeder of African soft fur Rats. Keeper of other small exotic mammals.
    10 sugar gliders

    2 tenrecs
    5 jumping spiders
    paludarium with fish
    Brisingr the albino
    Snowy the BEL
    Piglet the albino conda hognose


    FINALLY got my BEL,no longer breeding snakes. married to mechnut450..

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to 4theSNAKElady For This Useful Post:

    amserpents (03-24-2013)

  11. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    02-09-2013
    Posts
    2,385
    Thanks
    200
    Thanked 581 Times in 459 Posts

    Re: Is it too late to breed low end morphs 3 years from now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skilla6000 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm planning on going to a reptile expo in 4 months saving some money up for it but is it still worth buying low ebd morph females like pastels albinos pieds pinstripes butters lessers and may e some yellow bellys?
    these genes have come down in price, but will never be low-end. pastel, albino, pinstripe and pied are awesome and popular and powerful genes. albino pied is still very expensive.

  12. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    01-16-2013
    Location
    Calgary, AB
    Posts
    301
    Thanks
    46
    Thanked 51 Times in 49 Posts

    Re: Is it too late to breed low end morphs 3 years from now?

    Quote Originally Posted by qegalpal View Post
    Buy what appeals to you. There will always be a market for the
    so called low end morphs, mainly because they play well with others, gene wise.
    You MIGHT be able to get your money back, but don't count on it. Do it because you
    love it/them, the bps, and you can't lose. Otherwise, don't bother, because it can be a lot of work
    and if you don't love the journey, everyone loses.

    Thanks guys... I was just curios on some input from you guys, as what I mean from profit I don't mean profit as in I'm going to buy a new house and a car, as profit goes I would like to invest that extra money I make from hatchlings back Into some high end males for future breeding. I love my snakes so much and have done a lot of research and would love to be able to say I produced some of these. Being able to see a little baby's head pip would be the greatest feeling in the world... Thanks Guys.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Skilla6000 For This Useful Post:

    qegalpal (03-22-2013)

  14. #10
    BPnet Senior Member meowmeowkazoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-11-2011
    Location
    Ogden, Utah
    Posts
    1,755
    Thanks
    1,549
    Thanked 763 Times in 468 Posts
    There will always be a market for quality examples of low end morphs. For instance, I already have people who want babies from this pastel girl I recently picked up:



    Make sure you always buy the best quality morphs you can find, and there will be a market for their babies. End of story, regardless of whether it's a low or high end morph.
    [Python regius]
    1.0 Black Butter Pinstripe (Amazeballs), 1.0 Pastel Butter Leopard (Thunderbeeper)
    0.1 Spider (Charlotte), 0.1 Leopard (Spot), 0.1 Pastel (Buttercup), Fire Sugar (Abaddon), Crystal (Opalescence)

    [Python brongersmai]
    1.1 T+ Albino (Kushiel & Carmilla)

    [Boa imperator]
    1.0 Hypo 100% Het Leopard/66% Het Albino (Darcy)
    0.1 66% Het Leopard/Albino (Gabby)


    [Colubrids]
    0.1 Cave-dwelling Rat Snakes (Betty Spaghetti)

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to meowmeowkazoo For This Useful Post:

    Wapadi (03-22-2013)

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1