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    Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    Well I've heard a lot of stuff about them recently, and for some reason my phone isn't pulling up WOBP, so I'm asking you guys. I've heard stuff about mystic potions, phantoms, and mystics. I've just now learned about them but apparently from what I've heard their pretty bada**. Can someone please explain what makes a potion a potion, or a mystic potion, etc?

    Edit:in my genetic calculator app I just mixed a phantom with a mojave, and came out with a "purple passion"..? Idk but this thing looks WICKED.
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    Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    Mystic and phantom is like lesser and butter. Mystic potion is a mojo mystic. Purple passion is a mojo phantom. Essentially the same snake.
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    Re: Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    yeah i just picked a Mystic female up a few weeks ago, when she gets up to size she will be going with a hypo super mojave. Gives me a better chance of hitting the mystic potion, two mystics will make a super mystic. Dan wolfe is doing some really cool stuff with the mystic gene like the enchi mystic, pastel enchi mystic, and a few other things that i really liked a lot.
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    Mojave and Mystic/phantom (same thing)

    Mystic x mojave makes a "mystic potion".
    Phantom x mojave makes a "purple passion" which is the same thing as a mystic potion. Mystics and phantoms are the same morph with different names.
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    Oh okay, like Mike said, mystic is to phantom what lesser is to butter.

    Just wondering about these genes because soon I'm picking up two females, a mojave and a butter, both super young. Now I'm thinking in a couple of years investing in a mystic/phantom combo boyfriend for them.
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    Re: Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    one thing you probarbly already know....

    the genes are sitting on the same locus. all these genes are on the same locus: Butter, Daddy Gene, Lesser Platinum, Mocha, Mojave, Mystic, Phantom, Russo Het Leucistic, Special.

    you need to consider this when calculating odds. its most apparent when you breed a snake having two of these genes to another snake having two of these genes, you dont get normals or single-gene or triple gene offspring, only 2-gene combos.

    so mystic potion to mystic potion gives 50% mystic potion, 25% super mojave, 25% super mystic. and mystic potion to a normal results in 50% mystic, 50% mojave.

    and yes they are awesome looking. super mystic / phantom also looks nice, but mystic potions are lighter colored and the pattern is often further reduced. and enchi mystic potion looks just totally awesome.

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    Re: Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    Hopefully next year at the soonest I'll start pairing my Spider/Mojave male with my Mystic/Pastel in attempts to produce Mystic Potions as well as the worlds first BumbleBee Mystic Potion. I originally wanted to just breed Mystic Potions because they are just gorgeous, but I couldn't pass up these 2 gene snakes. Check out the odds.

    Click here to see the breeding odds on this killer pairing.
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    Re: Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtilein View Post
    one thing you probarbly already know....

    the genes are sitting on the same locus. all these genes are on the same locus: Butter, Daddy Gene, Lesser Platinum, Mocha, Mojave, Mystic, Phantom, Russo Het Leucistic, Special.

    you need to consider this when calculating odds. its most apparent when you breed a snake having two of these genes to another snake having two of these genes, you dont get normals or single-gene or triple gene offspring, only 2-gene combos.

    so mystic potion to mystic potion gives 50% mystic potion, 25% super mojave, 25% super mystic. and mystic potion to a normal results in 50% mystic, 50% mojave.

    and yes they are awesome looking. super mystic / phantom also looks nice, but mystic potions are lighter colored and the pattern is often further reduced. and enchi mystic potion looks just totally awesome.
    yeah that guy from Scotland made the 1st enchi mystic potion i really wanna see how it looks as it gets older.
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    Oh I'm interested in these phantom combos now. Think I should save up for a phantom combo for my mojave and butter girls?
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    Re: Can someone explain to me the "potion" combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trackstrong83 View Post
    Oh I'm interested in these phantom combos now. Think I should save up for a phantom combo for my mojave and butter girls?
    yeah, but like he was saying the mystic potions are lighter in color. The purple potion is a little darker plus you can see the side pattern on a purple potion. They aren't too different from one another....I just like the mystic stuff better. I would also look into the mystic potion sulfar, they are very light and so beautiful.
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