Black pastels and cinnamons have gene problems?

[QTEpythons]

There is a thread "wheezing". His pewter wheezes, but the vet could find nothing wrong and over a long period nothing has progressed. Read thread.
I have a black pastel w that problem and another poster also has a black pastel. What gives?
Come be honest.
I've heard both can produce funky supers and some breeders won't produce them. Been told it make crazy mouths.
Mine is a year old and no signs of illness. Same as the others.


Maybe it has a lisp and just can't throw out a good hiss.

[Dave Green]

I haven't seen any issues with my cinnamons or cinnamon combos.

[Pythonfriend]

i only heared about problems with the super-form, black pastel and cinnamon supers frequently have these duckbills, and in rare cases also kinking / spinal problems. So some breeders avoid producing the super-form, while other breeders have a few super black pastels and super cinnys in their collection. And perfectly healthy super cinnys are also possible.


but i have never heared about issues with the ones that have the gene only once.

[Luke Martin]

I've got tons of Cinny stuff and no issues. I don't work with black pastels at all.

[snakesRkewl]

We have a 1500 gram black pastel male, a 3000+ gram black pastel female, a 300+ gram albino black pastel, a 2000 gram cinny pewter female and they are all in perfect health and always have been

We are shooting for super black pastels this year, fingers crossed, probably be the only time we do this pairing.

[Wapadi]

None of our black pastel combos have any issues except a small head wobble on the black bee. And we all know thats a spider issue and not a blk pastel one.

[Mike41793]

Both my cinnamons are fine.

[satomi325]

My black pastel gene stuff is fine too.

[TessadasExotics]

None of our black pastels our cinnies or super cinny have any health issues

[loonunit]

Both of my black pastels "whistle". Neither of them are sick. I assume it's sort of the one-gene version of the duckbilling, that their noses are shaped a little differently. Neither the cinny I hatched this year or her cinny pewter mom whistle.

The duckbilling is the most common. Most people don't seem to think it's a real defect, just a "feature". I've heard of occasional bug-eyes and spinal kinks in the supers. The kinks seem to afflict entire clutches, so it could be incubator issues, or particular genetic lines. I've actually never seen the bug-eyes. The only bug-eye I've ever seen was a BEL.