Paint morph

[B76]

Those are very minor differences.

[jmcelroy324]

Not to get off the subject but id love to see a super from your Yellowbelly line.

[jmcelroy324]

There are other markers but I am no expert. Charles Glaspie is who I asked and who we got our breeders from. He is definitely the guy to ask he definitely has helped me.

[snakesRkewl]

Sorry to get off subject...

Not to get off the subject but id love to see a super from your Yellowbelly line.

adult sRk line yellowbelly female


Super produced from our adult sRk line male yb


a better side picture of the yb het clown

[Action Reptiles]

Soooo paint/sentinel/nazca all mean the same thing...?

I remember seeing jons super nazca before and drooling over it haha

No

I believe they are the same mutation just different lineages.

They look similar but have yet to be proven compatible.

I hope I can shed some light on the Paint Ball morph for those who are interested.





I have been working with paints for a few years now and have produced a couple combo's to date. All info I have pertains to Paint Balls only(I am not familiar with the nazca, sentinels, or any other similar line out there). We should find out either this year or very soon if some of these are compatible or not.
1) First thing to look for is an almost granite pattern, or reduced alien heads. This sometimes shows up more towards the middle to end of the snake(pic 1).
2) The next thing is almost yellow belly like flames along the snake with higher concentration near the neck and head(pic 2 & 3).
3) Last is a 85-100% clear belly with track like marks on both sides down the snakes belly. Sometimes these tracks will cross to the other side creating a X patten on belly(pic 3)

can see the belly X at the top near my fingers


These markers are present in varying degrees and some more than others. For example one could have a lot of flames with little granite pattern and clear belly, or another could have all granite pattern with little flames and a X belly...etc

Part 2 combo morphs to come...

[Action Reptiles]

Part 2 Paint balls and Combo's

I was lucky enough to produce an extreme example of a paint this past season shown here



(@Jerry this is why your yellow belly line looks similar I'm guessing)

From what I have seen when you combine the Paint ball with other morphs it tends to accentuate some of the markers. Here are some Pastel Paints I produced in 2011 & 2012.

2011 pastel paint(has spotted pattern) baby pic


sub-adult pics



2012 Pastel Paints





I was also lucky enough to produce what I believe is a first combo of Paint and Pinstripe. I have showed a few others working on the project along with Ted Williams(one of the founders of the Paint Ball) and also seem to believe I did hit the combo. It appears the paint increases the amount of flames when combined with certain morphs.

Paint Pin



Also adds more dotted pattern as well


Like any other morph you are going to get low and high end examples of it. Sometimes it is difficult to tell from some normals but it is an incomplete dominate morph and does produce visuals if bred to a normal.

[bkelley02]

Hi Pat, are the first few pictures what you're saying is the super form of the Pain? Is there that big of a variation in the supers with Paints where some are drastic like you see in adds and some are more subdued like in your example? Nice looking snake with the white speckling going up the sides but not what I expected.

Thanks for sharing the pictures!

Brian

[Kt21vkb]

Pat, that was very helpful. Paint pin looks very nice.

[Action Reptiles]

Just so you know I have not produced a super form to date as I have been working on making combo's first to make a bunch of combo supers in the near future. The 1st four pics are of an regular Paint ball. The pics of the extreme paint ball could also be a really low grade super I won't know for sure until its bred. All the other pics are of combo paint morphs. here is a pic of the super form= Super Paint right from the world of ball pythons..

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...er-paint-ball/

Hope this helps...

[snakesRkewl]

(@Jerry this is why your yellow belly line looks similar I'm guessing)

From what I have seen when you combine the Paint ball with other morphs it tends to accentuate some of the markers. Here are some Pastel Paints I produced in 2011 & 2012.

I would love to prove that out, time will tell.