Labor question

[Kodieh]

I just wanted to get opinions from the community on a situation I'm currently experiencing and have a bad taste because of.

I'll remain anonymous about the company, just to make everything a little less bias. But understand that where I work has hundreds of people round the clock there.

If I'm scheduled from 4:00 P. M. to 1:00 A. M. Can they make me stay any later than that? They keep trying to drill (well, "they", but it's one single member of management saying this) into us that if the "assignment" isn't complete by 1 am, we HAVE to stay. No "you can" or "the hours are there" but we CANNOT leave until it is done. Completely done.

I've mostly researched that people are like "why complain", "free hours", "at least you have a job" and quite frankly I find that nonsense. I'm scheduled from x to y and that's it. I personally feel that it has to be against some kind of labor law, but obviously if by some stretch I do go over they aren't penalized for it.

To be clearer, this manager means whether it takes ten extra minutes or two extra hours that's how long we have to stay. I've considered going above this managers head about it, but I'm really not that kind of person. We are also understaffed beyond all reason too. Today for example, (I'm at lunch right now) we had a a really light night. But, company rules say regardless we should have 11 guys and there's only five. So, on a nightly basis we do the job of 11 with anywhere from as little as 3 to as many as 7 guys. So, I feel like the expectations are set at a level unattainable by us and by **** am I gonna to pay for the ineptitude of the hiring department.

So, just let it rip and don't hold back. I need to hear others take on the matter and see if I'm in the wrong or if the company is doing something illegal or just morally reprehensible.

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[BFE Pets]

You asked for it..... Quit whinning or quit the job! My job tells you when you hire on if its an 8 hour shift plan to be there 16 because, guess what if the next guy in your spot don't show up or quits you are there until the next shift starts. By law they only have to give you 8 hours off before your next shift. Btw with my job there is no lunch break. If you get a chance to grab a sandwich great if not sucks to be you! Oh you haven't had a coffee/smoke break and you've been here 9 hours. Haha sucks to be you. Now the funny part..... I LOVE my job! Even though the hours suck. But as for you. Man up or give up! Work hard play harder or go flip burgers and your next post will be: man wish I had the money for this new morph.
So was that honest enough for you?

[Kodieh]

I get where you coming from, and I could make whiney excuses about so and so doesn't do their job either or they don't pay me enough to care blah blah. But, the fact is I don't. They can't fire me for it, or at least I don't think they can, so I'm gonna do me and see how it goes.

Well, I guess I'll give the whiney excuses and see what you say.

I work the second, of three, shifts. So, when I go in I usually spend about 45 minutes to an hour picking up their mess/being told what they didn't get done (THEY get to leave when things aren't done, but I can't?) and then do my job. Afterwards we do "picks" or go back through the system pulling merchandise from back stock to the floor so stockers can work it. The bull**** stops with us, apparently because we can't leave till the job is done.



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[BFE Pets]

All legitiment reasons to be irratated. I hear where youre coming from. I've been there and sounds similar to the start of my day. I currently work 14 12's . Well I get paid for that but my day is normally 13 hrs. I came on strong with the first post cuz you kinda asked for it but honestly if its so bad find another job.

[BrandiR]

I can see both sides. There is the obvious, "if you don't like it, find another job," and, "quit whining and be happy you have a job," and those are valid perspectives.

At the same time, we shouldn't be expected to be the property of our employers. If you hired in with the understanding that your shift would be from x - y, then that is what your shift should be. Just like they have expectations of you, you should be able to have expectations of them. A job, for the most part, is a partnership. They need someone to perform a duty and you need some money to live, so you strike a deal. I will give you _____ and in return you will give me _______.


Your job is to perform the job you were hired to do, on the days you were hired to do it, during the times you were hired to be there. If any of these things need to be changed, then you should be notified and invited to have a conversation regarding the changes. If you choose to agree to the changes, then you need to be prepared to follow through. If you do not agree with the changes, then you need to be prepared to accept the consequences of not being in a position to perform the job as they need it performed. However, if you say, "No, I can't stay beyond x," and they agree, then they don't have the right to give you a hard time about it.

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All legitiment reasons to be irratated. I hear where youre coming from. I've been there and sounds similar to the start of my day. I currently work 14 12's . Well I get paid for that but my day is normally 13 hrs. I came on strong with the first post cuz you kinda asked for it but honestly if its so bad find another job.

By chance do you work in the oil field?

[reptileexperts]

Best advice I've ever been given "The only break you need is the fact that you got a break when you got the job". . . It's hard times to be hard pressed about getting paid extra money to work extra hours. Buck up, tough up, grow to expect it and make it a normal. It helps you deal with the fact that the hours are longer, but you come to ease into it as you expect it.

Labor laws are not there to protect you in this area - Sorry hard truth. I've been forced to stay over an extra 4 hours on a 12 hour shift numerous times, heck even volunteered other times. 16 hours makes for a long day, however, anything over 16 hours does fall into a dangerous territory for Legal since insurence no longer provides workmens coverage if they are on site for more than 16 consecutive hours. Most places that have workmans comp insurance in place must follow these standards. 16 on, followed by a min of 8 off before you can return to work.

Welcome to the real working persons world.

[Sama]

I work 4-midnight 5 days a week, I can't go home until I am relieved, like twice the week before last my relief was 1 hour late. I have had them just no show and if I was lucky my boss got someone else to show up half way thro the next shift, so 4 more hours. Worst case I am there till 8 am when the day shift comes on. I can understand where your coming from, a lot of it is what kind of job are you working, some jobs should be x-y and you can leave after, some jobs are x to y or x to when your relieve shows up, usually you know which is which before you get the job. So basically, I am no help.

[Kodieh]

It's delicately balance with the fact that we're a 24 hour 7 days a week joint but for us its shift 1 is 7 am to 4 pm, shift to 4-1, and shift three 10-7. So, in my situation I'm kinda of the opinion now that if I'm accountable for the picks that drop at 9 then shift one shouldn't be allowed to leave until their picks are completely done too. An all or no one deal, really. But, I do feel thankful that I have a job and can work. One of those "problems you're lucky to have" sort of things.

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[SquamishSerpents]

The problem is the economy is so :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:e, that employers are getting away with BS and all you ever hear is "be thankful you have a job." Can't say to your employer "be thankful you have employees!" because unfortuody nately for you, they could just hire the next poor sap walking by, because everybody needs a job.

Still, it's no reason to bend over backwards. I'm not sure what exactly the laws are in your area, but where I live, nobody can MAKE you work overtime.

[rlditmars]

So if I'm hearing you correctly, "Life isn't fair." And?