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    All of these het questions.....

    All of these het question lately got me thinking. In that thinking I managed to get myself confused. Lets take a spider het albino, he would be considered a 2 banger right? Since he has his spider gene and his het for albino gene. Now would an albino spider be a 3 banger since it takes two of the het genes to make the visual. I'm kinda think of it like a super form which they count each half. OR would the spider het albino be a 1.5 banger and the albino spider be the 2 banger? See how I got myself confused?

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    Re: All of these het questions.....

    Lol I personally dont count het as any bang.
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    well i think depends on what each person thinks of as a "banger", theres not really a definition for it lol.

    Personally if I were to say it, I'd count spider het albino as 2 and albino spider as 3.

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    Ok then I will replace "banger" with gene. I thought banger was a pretty common term, maybe I just hear it a lot in the same place.
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    i wouldnt count hets for me an albino is one spider is one so together 2 gene animal
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    I think most people only do the gene count for what is visual. I think it could start getting messy if "hets" and "possible hets" are counted as genetic expressions, especially for sales purposes. Maybe I'm wrong?
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    I definitely think hets count as one and visuals count as 2 with regards to recessives. Just the same as we view all of the Incomplete Dom. genes.

    And for those who say they don't count hets, when you price an animal for sale do you include that het. gene in your price? You aren't going to sell a Spider het. Albino for the same price as a single gene Spider right? So you are really counting it.

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    Re: All of these het questions.....

    Quote Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs View Post
    I definitely think hets count as one and visuals count as 2 with regards to recessives. Just the same as we view all of the Incomplete Dom. genes.

    And for those who say they don't count hets, when you price an animal for sale do you include that het. gene in your price? You aren't going to sell a Spider het. Albino for the same price as a single gene Spider right? So you are really counting it.
    I'm with C&H on this one, even though it just comes down to semantics. Technically, they're all multi-gene animals, just some of those genes are ones we've decided are valuable, and the others are "just normal".
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    I just think it's a sticky spot in the whole genetic "counting" thing. Of course a het will go for more but I also think it should be kept separate from the visual count. But I guess it already is. That's why it's stated as "spider het albino" instead of "spider with albino you can't see". But then again, is a pastel stated as a "het super pastel"? No, because pastel it is its own visual single gene and you only need one in a breeding pair to make more. So is a het a 1/2 gene?
    Wait a second, where am I going with this? Now I'm getting confused!
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    Re: All of these het questions.....

    what's so "sticky" about counting a het as a gene...it absolutely is. Not much to question about it IMO.

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