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    I have no issue as long as proper care is given and has humane death as possible. I'm not very fond of gator meat though, at least what I've had. It's too greasy for me. Also where would you keep them? If some ignorant person finds out you have them they'll try to mess with then cause it's "cool" or "dangerous". Then you'll have a lawsuit because their family will blame you not the ignorance or the individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theReptileGuy View Post
    As bad as it may sounds, I don't see a difference between raising dogs for meat and with cows.
    No, thats where i draw the line. Theres a reason cows arent known as mans best friend. My german shepherd is smarter than some humans ive met. The difference is there are GSD's that are soldiers and police officers that risk their lives for you everyday. gsarchie is a soldier, should we slaughter him for food? So no i wouldnt be able to eat one and raising one to be slaughtered and eaten is wrong imo.
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    Re: Raising Gators for Table Fare

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    . It's too greasy for me.
    Must have been prepared by cooks that like to use extra grease...alligator meat is nearly as lean as boneless/skinless chicken breast.

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    gsarchie is a soldier, should we slaughter him for food?
    Let's not try to get carried away here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
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    Let's not try to get carried away here...
    Not getting carried away, just making a point. Dogs who are part of the K-9 unit are treated as officers too. If they realease the dog on you and you punch it then its considered assaulting an officer. I think they need to be treated with the same respect.

    Now if were talking about Paris Hilton's teacup chihuahua.. Then by all means light the grill lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Not getting carried away, just making a point. Dogs who are part of the K-9 unit are treated as officers too. If they realease the dog on you and you punch it then its considered assaulting an officer. I think they need to be treated with the same respect.

    Now if were talking about Paris Hilton's teacup chihuahua.. Then by all means light the grill lol
    You sir, are a dogsist! :p (totally making words up at this point)

    Now, because I personally see dogs and cats in a "pet" light, I couldn't eat one. But I would never deny someone else the right to do so with the same respect I give those that would eat gators, snakes, lizards or frogs.

    The whole situation is a little weird in my mind because I too enjoy gator but would also keep one as a pet.

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    Re: Raising Gators for Table Fare

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    No, thats where i draw the line. Theres a reason cows arent known as mans best friend. My german shepherd is smarter than some humans ive met. The difference is there are GSD's that are soldiers and police officers that risk their lives for you everyday. gsarchie is a soldier, should we slaughter him for food? So no i wouldnt be able to eat one and raising one to be slaughtered and eaten is wrong imo.
    You should definitely hang out with some cows. They might not be 'dog smart', but man, I've worked with some insanely intelligent livestock in my life. Chickens, not inbred mass produced chickens, are amazingly intelligent. They're fun, haha. Goats are too. I knew a set of goats that we could -not- keep locked up, because they always found a way out. The only thing that worked was a padlock and key. And even then, one of the buggers managed to climb the fence. Brats.

    I don't think we can really bring intelligence into the discussion, however. It's not fair. What some people believe are just 'stupid animals', other people argue are actually intelligent. Some people think reptiles are 'just reptiles' and 'why would you want them as a pet'. So it goes both ways! Haha.

    As long as it's raised for food, with the intention of being food, and is treated well and given a good death, then I see no problem with it. We did it with cows. They knew their names, they were very sweet animals, but we went in knewing they were meat. We did kill them ourselves, to make sure it was done right.

    So I'd say as long as you're prepared for the work that goes into them, go for it. Goodness knows we have enough people illegally poaching animals for food in the off-seasons. I'm happy to see someone wanting to go about it in the correct way.
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    Seems like you were expecting some very different responses I have no issue with it, assuming everyone is kept humanely, and slaughtered humanely. I've begun raising ducks and chickens . They are for eggs first, pets second, and meat third. I'm more attached to one of the chickens than any of the others, and would prefer not to eat her. If we ever get ducklings, I will post them up for sale, and if they don't sell, I plan on viewing them the same as the rats used for the snakes - they will be for food, and will be harvested. Regardless of their status on my pet-egg-food hierarchy, all will be treated well and raised on great food.

    If I had the means and property to raise other forms of meat, I would do so. Nobody should look forward to killing another animal, but if raised humanely and slaughtered humanely, you have the peace of mind knowing that they likely had a much better life than a pre-packaged mass produced animal you may get somewhere else.

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    I wasn't trying to provoke anyone by stating that, and I apologize. But, to make my point, once again I don't intend to offend anyone, pigs, are supposed to be just as smart as some dogs, and there are people who are trying to use them for their sense of smell and such. A few years back, after talking to some zoologists (local zoo), they even stated that they (pigs) were just as smart as dogs, and can be trained to do the same things, if not more. Does that mean we shouldn't slaughter pigs either? In my view, we shouldn't have one species higher than others, no matter how much we idealize it. There are dozens of other countries that idealize animals that we in the states eat. India - cow, Some parts of Africa - sheep, etc.

    It seems a bit unfair that someone would pick one animal to be a higher rank than others, sure dogs save lives, but, if you look into account, pigs have been known to do the same. Heck, even cows in some other countries do protect people. Yet, they don't discriminate against eating them.

    All animals should be treated equally, and not one should be put above any other. But, that's just my philosophy, I'm not forcing it onto anyone, it's just the way I see things.

    I don't mean to offend you Mike or anyone else, not in any way slightest. And I apologize if I have.

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    Nature you didnt offend me at all bud, im just a passionate lover of most breeds of dog. Especially GSD's.

    To people trying to convince me that cows and pigs are smart too, thats fine if thats your opinion. My opinion is; when the military or police forces start regularly using cattle or swine to assist them ill gladly admit that theyre intelligent creatures. Until then dogs, and only dogs, will remain mans best friend.

    EDIT: i should also add that this is my opinion as an American. I realize other countries have different beliefs and i respect them. If i was in China, where i believe they eat dogs, i wouldnt freak out on everyone there for eating them. Same way if i was in india i would never joke about killing cows and eating steak. Im not trying to sound pompou and say that american beliefs are the best. In other countries if you wanna raise GSD's for food thats fine, just dont do it in the US bc thats animal cruelty. Once again, this is all my opinion. Not forcing it on anyone. I apologize if i offended anyone by sounding rude!
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    Re: Raising Gators for Table Fare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Nature you didnt offend me at all bud, im just a passionate lover of most breeds of dog. Especially GSD's.

    To people trying to convince me that cows and pigs are smart too, thats fine if thats your opinion. My opinion is; when the military or police forces start regularly using cattle or swine to assist them ill gladly admit that theyre intelligent creatures. Until then dogs, and only dogs, will remain mans best friend.

    The police probably can't use Swine for their units because there would just be way too many jokes to deal with if they did
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