Desert x desert

[interloc]

Someone resurrected a thread about pro exotics breeding a desert lesser an desert spider together. This got me thinking. Of all the desert female breedings that have gone sour, how many were desert x desert. I'm not a genetics expert nor do I think that desert females have a chance at laying viable eggs, but that pairing seems interesting to me. What if the desert problem can be as simple as a desert female needing 2 desert genes to be able to lay good clutches. I haven't heard of any desert x desert myself but I would like to hear about some. Thanks in advance for your answers!


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[Royal Hijinx]

At this point the evidence points to there being an unacceptably high risk of a slow painful death for the female, so I personally do not advocate breeding a Desert female at all.

[interloc]

True. I don't think they should be bred anymore. I was just wondering if my idea had already been attempted. I dont believe that the desert females should be bred anymore either. But I wouldn't mind having a pastel desert spider female as the coolest pet ever.

[Rat160]

I wonder if anyone has done any scientific research on why only the females dont breed. Figure its got to be something internal.

[John1982]

I wonder if anyone has done any scientific research on why only the females dont breed. Figure its got to be something internal.

They apparently do breed but either slug out or get egg bound and die.

[satomi325]

Its a risky pairing. People already don't want to invest in a female that is infertile. If a female desert can only produce a viable clutch if only paired with a male desert seems almost pointless or at least a dead end.

Also, the infertility is probably directly linked to the X chromosome, which is why male deserts are fine.

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[Rat160]

Then why do people like bhb still sell females for $1800???

[Anatopism]

Its a risky pairing. People already don't want to invest in a female that is infertile. If a female desert can only produce a viable clutch if only paired with a male desert seems almost pointless or at least a dead end.

Also, the infertility is probably directly linked to the X chromosome, which is why male deserts are fine.

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Most snakes use ZZ:ZW sex determination, right? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZW_sex-...ination_system
Desert female infertility perhaps is linked to W, similar to male patterned baldness in humans?

[satomi325]

Most snakes use ZZ:ZW sex determination, right? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZW_sex-...ination_system
Desert female infertility perhaps is linked to W, similar to male patterned baldness in humans?

I'm not sure. It says 'some' reptiles. But regardless, I meant specifically female chromosome. So either way, I believe that is the main biological issue with deserts.

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[interloc]

At this point the evidence points to there being an unacceptably high risk of a slow painful death for the female, so I personally do not advocate breeding a Desert female at all.

Jinx, I wasn't saying that I think this pairing should be done, I was just wondering if it had been done. Also, why do you not think that the males should be bred? They make babies just fine. I'm sure if you hatched out a double or triple gene female, you could still make a bit of coin selling it as a pet. Are you saying that we should stop breeding all ball pythons with problems? Because you have some problem animals in your collection. Not meaning to offend here, just gathering info.


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