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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana View Post
    Also, champagne sable has more of a wobble than either morph on its own, AFAIK.

    Seems that any combination of champ, sable and spider fairs poorly.
    Took some time, but heres a quote from someone who produced one

    Now…when you line the two traits up….Champagne and Sable together…. it seems to make the wobble more obvious. Similar to a wobbly Spider…unfortunately ALL of the Saffron display the wobble “gene signature“.
    and then says

    The degree of the wobble is similar to that of a spider.
    As I said earlier, if the wobble is present in a baby Champagne…the wobble seems to disappear or diminish as they mature…I have hopes that perhaps the wobble may also diminish as the Saffrons mature.
    so just like you said, together they are similar to the spider, but alone not quite as bad. Also interesting, I didn't know champs tended to out grow it.
    Last edited by OhhWatALoser; 05-26-2012 at 10:27 AM.

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    Doesn't mean negative or bad, just to clarify.

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    Yeah, the thing that fooled me at first with womas, and had me also believing for at least a couple of years that they had no wobble issues, is that hatchling womas almost never wobble. They develop it as they get older, or it's triggered by stress events, so the breeder rarely sees it, unless they have some adult womas with a wobble. By the time a woma starts to wobble, it's usually out of the breeder's hands.
    The wobble is also usually more subtle than it is in spiders, though there are some exceptions.
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    I have never seen any wobble in my breeder male Champagne or Hidden Gene Woma?

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Amos1974 View Post
    I have never seen any wobble in my breeder male Champagne or Hidden Gene Woma?
    I've never seen any wobble in my spider, doesn't mean they don't

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    Interesting, never looked much into womas so didn't know about the wobble, and I did not know champ X spider was lethal either. Learn something new every day. Thank you for posting this.

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    Thank you for putting this all in one neat list.

    What about Albinos having eye deformities? Not sure how common that one is.
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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmorphs2 View Post
    What about Albinos having eye deformities? Not sure how common that one is.
    never herd of that one, or noticed it. Anyone got any input?

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    ahhh i see. Too confusing for me to all digest tonite but thats weird. Too bad other morphs didnt tend to throw alot of females lol

    EDIT: for the record, no one should ever make the mistake of googling banana sex ratio... big mistake! lol jk jk
    hahahahahahaha

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    Re: List of Morph Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    That video is classic Kevin being Kevin...

    By that you mean intense hand gesturing and wild conjecture based on voodoo superstition (or worse, an unimaginable amount of trial and error)? Not a knock, but I agree it is very standard in the video.

    "We produced enough males that we knew it wasn't just bad luck."
    Scary to think what that number is... I'm not looking to get flamed so I'll keep my own wild conjecture to myself.
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