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    Quote Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    With dominate genes there is no visual difference between the heterozygous and homozygous animal.

    The only way to tell is to breed them, a heterozygous dominate will result in 50% offspring with the dominate trait. The homozygous snake will pass on the dominate trait 100% of the time.
    I also believe there was a thread on here somewhere about the codom actually being an incomplete dominant trait were the homo or super form is the complete dominant or something like that. Its like when people say a fire is het for black eyed Lucy.

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    Re: Need help with breeding ball pythons

    Quote Originally Posted by angel619 View Post

    I finally got my 100% het for cinnamon male ball python...

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    Yes but the only way you would call a cinnamon 'het' for anything would be saying it's 'het super cinnamon'. It wouldn't be labeled a 'het cinnamon' unless somebody was trying to pass off a normal as something it isn't. Fires and Yellowbellies (which can sometimes be called het Black-eyed Leucistic or het ivory) don't look much like a normal though they certainly can at times. They're not called 'het fire' or 'het yellowbelly' they're fire or yellowbelly or het BEL or het ivory.

    Hopefully OP comes back with pics so we can confirm the morph but also to figure out what their setup is (hopefully not keeping the two together!) and why they're breeding two animals they really apparently don't know a lot about if they bought a '100% het for cinnamon'. Breeding is a big undertaking and shouldn't be done without a lot of research.
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    Re: Need help with breeding ball pythons

    Alright so I finally got my 100% het for cinnamon
    As mentioned you either have a cinnamon, there is no such snake as a Het Cinnamon

    what types of babies am I going to get
    Normal (See answer above)

    and also how much can I sell some baby cinnamons
    If you had a cinny and had cinnies available now they would go for $100/$150 for males and $200/$250 for females, however this is the price now and by the time you have hatchlings for sale they could be half that, however since you do not have a cinny and will hatch normal those will sell for about $20 retail.

    Breeding is a very rewarding experience however I believe you have much to learn before even thinking about how much your hatchling will sell for if they sell, remember because you put two snakes together does not mean you will have eggs and it does not mean you will be able to sell them, don't put the carriage before the horses, do some serious research.

    First on genetics to avoid being taking advantage of in the future.

    Second do some research on proper optimal husbandry, proper introduction rotation, there is much to learn and much to be prepared for the good thing is that the information is readily available online and learning and doing some research is part of this rewarding experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inarikins View Post
    Yes but the only way you would call a cinnamon 'het' for anything would be saying it's 'het super cinnamon'. It wouldn't be labeled a 'het cinnamon' unless somebody was trying to pass off a normal as something it isn't. Fires and Yellowbellies (which can sometimes be called het Black-eyed Leucistic or het ivory) don't look much like a normal though they certainly can at times. They're not called 'het fire' or 'het yellowbelly' they're fire or yellowbelly or het BEL or het ivory.

    Hopefully OP comes back with pics so we can confirm the morph but also to figure out what their setup is (hopefully not keeping the two together!) and why they're breeding two animals they really apparently don't know a lot about if they bought a '100% het for cinnamon'. Breeding is a big undertaking and shouldn't be done without a lot of research.
    Right, that's what I was getting at. More than likely the OP got wool pulled over his/her eyes I have seen het for everything on CL. I always inquire to see why they have a het for pastel or how one snake has more spider in it then the other (and neither are spiders). There are a lot of people out there that get their hands on normals and try to pass them off as something else.

    OP, don't feel bad about buying something that isn't. Post a pic to photobucket and copy the IMG code here into a reply so we can see the snake and actually help you determine if it is in fact a cinnamon. Its possible somebody just got confused in the deal and said something incorrect. Also, try and let us know how your setups are going to be and what your husbandry is like so we can correct anything now, so you wont have problems in the future.

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