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    Ultimately what distinguishes them is that they prove to produce Super Stripes I think the newest craze in morph misidentification is "Specter?"

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    Haha that's a very good point!

    I did put up some pics in that other thread though, I don't want to search out a YB or Ivory if not a soul thinks there's a possibility she could be.

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    I would put her to a Ivory anyway, worse case scenario is more YBs.

    As far as craze, I just think there a lot of folks hoping they have one since SS are freakin sweet. I would think that the known breeders who are selling them are not charging $1K or more, and banking reputation if they are not SURE that the snake they are selling is in fact a Specter.

    I would be very wary of buying a "Specter" from someone unless they are very familiar with them and have been producing Super Stripes. My understanding is that these folks can pick them out from the group pretty easily.

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    OF COURSE I'm hoping she's a Specter!! But of course I also know I'm probably not that lucky.

    She was bought as a normal. All I know about her is she's an 05 and she came from a breeder in the US. Graziani or Wysocki are ringing a bell, but I cannot be 100% sure.
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    Re: What distinguishes a Specter from a Normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    OF COURSE I'm hoping she's a Specter!! But of course I also know I'm probably not that lucky.

    She was bought as a normal. All I know about her is she's an 05 and she came from a breeder in the US. Graziani or Wysocki are ringing a bell, but I cannot be 100% sure.
    YB is worthwhile having beyond Super Stripes. It pretty much makes everything better. It's the most underrated gene on the market IMO. So I would definitely say buy some YB combo or an Ivory anyway.

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    When i started researching them, I read that the markers were 'keyholes' in the top of the pattern, and donuts. Now it's tail stripe, head stamp, and 'overall color'? Hmm... >_>
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    Well I found this:

    http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...3&postcount=14

    Also my problem is that I haven't seen many Yellowbellies in person, nor Fires. So I would have no idea how to pick out any of these almost-normal-but-not-quite morphs.

    That's why I posted photos of her, to see what others think. Because like I said it's next to impossible to capture a snakes true colors with a camera, so that's not really something you should go by.

    Anyways, it's really hard to compare snakes from memory, as well. It's easy if they're side by side, but not so much by looking at a bunch and then going home to look at yours. Unless of course they're a snake you work with all the time.

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    Re: What distinguishes a Specter from a Normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    When i started researching them, I read that the markers were 'keyholes' in the top of the pattern, and donuts. Now it's tail stripe, head stamp, and 'overall color'? Hmm... >_>
    I am just saying what I was told by the breeder who produced mine. I have also read something about the keyholes and donuts, but I am not sure exactly what that means.

    Would you care to elaborate? Do you have an example?

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    I wholeheartedly agree with buying from someone you know is producing superstripes.

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    SnakesRKewl, is that a Specter?

    And yeah, if I was looking at purchasing a Specter, I'd get one from a reputable breeder for sure. And MAN would I like to have one!!!!

    But unfortunately we're not at a stage yet where our snakes are funding the purchase of new animals, the sales of offspring (which up to this point has been mostly corn snakes, because we traded away most of our balls) are mostly just paying to feed and house them. And even that's not quite covering everything. Any new animals we purchase comes straight out of pocket, so when we get to the point where we have more ball pythons for sale, we might consider making one or more higher-end purchases such as a Specter.

    Because I can honestly say, superstripes are one of my FAVORITE morphs, hands down. Can't wait to see all the combos that are going to pop up.

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