Trick Ball is a Codom

[twistedtails]

I don't care what anybody says. That "super Trick" is a Pastel. I'll be willing to eat my statement if proven otherwise. Sounds like somebody has a bad marketing ploy here. Not to mention, the Lesser Trick doesn't have any more yellow than a regular Lesser in my eyes. Just curious Vitto...Where do you come into this project? I'm not coming at you sideways or anything, just curious. Why6 hasn't he came out and said all of this himself?

[Royal Hijinx]

Is this the only one? Was it only Trick X Trick parents? Still some questions out there.

If this is a morph that amps yellow like that in Super form, it could be VERY useful, especially as you erase/change pattern.

[apple2]

Great looking snakes regardless of the morph!

Lol read the tile as "Trick ball is a condom"

Hey, we all substitue misspelled words.......

[Vitto]

I understand that there need to answers to these questions. Heck, I have more and more myself. What I am sure of is that Kevin Winter is working this project. I saw that with my own eyes. He is one of 3 working this new morph. I have already replied to his email with follow up questions. I came about this while I was at a reptile seminar. Keven Winter was the guest speaker. I knew he was working the Liesen Line Trick project before going to the seminar. I found out from his website. I was interested because I have two dinker vanillas that I wanted to compare and contrast to his tricks. He brought the lesser trick and trick, among some others morphs to the meeting. He talked to me a good while about the project how the trick would be bred to different morphs by each breeder working the project as to not have redundancy. He also told me that is was codom and could send me pics. He doesn't have the codom. I believe Mr. Liesen has him. What I wanted to do is exactly what's happening. Questions need to be asked because this follows no genetic trends like other morphs. I also wanted to make the BP community aware that this project is being worked. I may just contact Mr. Liesen to get pics of the parents and concise explanation of how this came to be.

[AGoldReptiles]

The " Liesen" Trick originated from the original "Liesen" Black Pastel. When Gary bred that animal it produced NO normals only Black Pastels and Tricks.

[Royal Hijinx]

So is Trick then in complex with Cinny and Black Pastel, or was that just a fluke?

[LotsaBalls]

I was just emailing Gary the other day and have asked about this. I'll let you know what he says.

[AGoldReptiles]

The story:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...61614&key=2010

[DemmBalls]

The "Super Trick" just looks like a Pastel to me as well. Has this snake been bred to prove that it is the "Super" form? Very odd...

[Vitto]

The "Super Trick" just looks like a Pastel to me as well. Has this snake been bred to prove that it is the "Super" form? Very odd...

Yes it has. I wish the super form was a little, well different from a pastel, but I'd like to see how it changes up combos. Im sure it's going to act different than a pastel gene.