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    wobble

    What does it mean when a snake has "Wobble?" I saw someone post a snake in the Ball Python classifieds on Facebook and it says it has wobble. Just wondering what it was. They are selling the snake, who I think is really pretty and should be sold for much more, for like $75 plus shipping...
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    Wobble refers to the spider morph ball python.
    Some cases in the Woma ball python morph also.

    But more prodominatly in the spider gene
    It refers to when the snake is excited or some times just always
    The head wobbles while its exploring or feeding. Also has a tendency to not turn itself right side up when flipped upside down
    Also cork screws when its looking around. Like its head starts looking up, the. Sideways, until its completely upside down.
    But there are severities such as my bumble bee ball python. It has the spider gene and has almost no wobble. But she does cork screw.
    When she is exploring while I'm holding her, she will begin to turn upside down from head to lower neck

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    Usually there head shakes a little, and usually just when they're excited and/or feeding. There are extreme cases though, where they corkscrew uncontrollably and can't seem to control most of their head movements.
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    Some ball pythons, most especially the spider morphs, have a 'disorder' that makes them not be able to control their neck exactly right. They shake a bit like a palsy in the mild form, or even twist around and flop over in the more severe form.

    It's considered by many to be VERY undesirable even in the mild form, but some people consider it merely an aspect of the spider gene.

    Severe cases might be nearly unable to strike prey, and will almost look as if they have end-stage IBD. They will turn their heads upside side and corkscrew about.

    If it's a mild wobble, the snake probably looks like a person who has palsy and the head will shake and "wobble" sort of like a drunk who hasn't passed out quite yet.
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    There are a few morphs that have a neurological disorder that causes them to have issues with motor control and balance (kind of like vertigo in people)

    The best know morph that is know to have wobble is the spider.

    99% of the time the wobble doesn't cause any actual problems. The snake doesn't seem to mind.

    In very rare cases (never seen a 100% confirmed case) where the wobble is so bad that the snake has issues eating.

    Overall I wouldn't let the wobble issue keep you away from a great morph like the spider, but I also wouldn't get one that is labeled as such.
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    Here is a video of a Ball Python with a "wobble".

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...58vxt0AU&gl=US
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    Re: wobble

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Chandler View Post
    Here is a video of a Ball Python with a "wobble".

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...58vxt0AU&gl=US
    It didn't show up. Just a bunch of random videos not about ball pythons. =/

    Thanks everyone that has really helped. Poor little snakes. I feel bad for the ones who have wobble. Now I know what it is though.
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    Re: wobble

    Quote Originally Posted by AmysAnimals View Post
    It didn't show up. Just a bunch of random videos not about ball pythons. =/

    Thanks everyone that has really helped. Poor little snakes. I feel bad for the ones who have wobble. Now I know what it is though.
    here's one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGy4g1qJdpo

    That is also a pretty bad wobble...
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    Re: wobble

    Quote Originally Posted by AmysAnimals View Post
    It didn't show up. Just a bunch of random videos not about ball pythons. =/

    Thanks everyone that has really helped. Poor little snakes. I feel bad for the ones who have wobble. Now I know what it is though.
    Opps, my bad. I posted from my iPad so youtube gave the mobile URL.

    Here is the video I tried to post


    Almost all BP's with the Spider gene wobble to some degree. I don't feel bad for them because I really don't think it causes them any discomfort.

    With BP's if anything is bothering them they immediately stop eating. All of my Spider morphs, even the wobblers, eat well.
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    Re: wobble

    Quote Originally Posted by zeion97 View Post
    here's one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGy4g1qJdpo

    That is also a pretty bad wobble...
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