Pastel Wobble

[JohnNJ]

Do pastels produced from Bumble Bee breedings exhibit the spider wobble?

[angllady2]

Not to my knowledge.

The wobble in this case is linked to the spider gene. If the offspring don't carry the spider gene, they should not wobble.

Gale

[The Serpent Merchant]

Not to my knowledge.

The wobble in this case is linked to the spider gene. If the offspring don't carry the spider gene, they should not wobble.

Gale

x2 if an offspring from a bumble bee pairing does not have the spider gene, it also will not have the wobble as it is directly linked to the spider gene. Any pastel produced will not be any different than a pastel produced from a pastel x normal pairing (genetically at least)

[decensored]

agreed. pastels don't carry the same genome mutations as spiders do. the wobble comes from the spider gene itself, and that gene - being co dominate wont hide in the DNA like a recessive gene will. I have never heard of a pastel with a wobble.

Cheers.

[Tekko]

Without wanting to start a debate about the wobble(we've all been there and all have opinions about it) the spider gene is not the only possible cause, other genetic defect are possible as well as neurological damage from parasites, various infections and physical injuries. While it is less likely to happen, non spider gene carrying individual as still susceptible to a lesser degree of being affected by the wobble symptom.

[The Serpent Merchant]

Without wanting to start a debate about the wobble(we've all been there and all have opinions about it) the spider gene is not the only possible cause, other genetic defect are possible as well as neurological damage from parasites, various infections and physical injuries. While it is less likely to happen, non spider gene carrying individual as still susceptible to a lesser degree of being affected by the wobble symptom.

I'm not trying to start a war here either:

But in this case the answer to the OP's question is no. While there always is a possibility of issues with any pairing a bee will not pass on the wobble with out also passing the spider gene.

[Balls Out Morphs]

Without wanting to start a debate about the wobble(we've all been there and all have opinions about it) the spider gene is not the only possible cause, other genetic defect are possible as well as neurological damage from parasites, various infections and physical injuries. While it is less likely to happen, non spider gene carrying individual as still susceptible to a lesser degree of being affected by the wobble symptom.

I have also heard that the wobble can be caused by neurological damage resulting from overheating during incubation. I actually saw a clutch of Mystics suffering from this, and the breeder decided to place the entire clutch in the freezer shortly after their first shed due to it being so bad.