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Kinking in super cinnamons
... I feel like I've noticed a number of posts about kinked super cinnamons.
Has anyone else noticed this, or heard of this as a common trend?
Anyone have any idea what the prevalence might be?
Just wondering if it's an emerging issue, or if it's just a statistical fluke. (I know that any snake can potentially kink due to incubation stress.)
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Re: Kinking in super cinnamons
 Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana
... I feel like I've noticed a number of posts about kinked super cinnamons.
Has anyone else noticed this, or heard of this as a common trend?
Anyone have any idea what the prevalence might be?
Just wondering if it's an emerging issue, or if it's just a statistical fluke. (I know that any snake can potentially kink due to incubation stress.)
I think kinking has more to do with incubation issues, it's much more common to hear about duck billing in supper cinnies and super black pastels. Kinking is a common problem in caramel ball pythons.
Currently have
2.3 pastel's
0.1 spider
0.1 normal
1.1 100% het albino's
1.0 Albino ( he will live at work but i get to take care of him)
1.0 Cinnamon
1.0 Fire
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Yes, kinking has occurred in Super Cinny and Super Black Pastels. The odd part is, Silver Bullets and Super Pewters don't seem to be affected even in the same clutch....and I still haven't seen any "duck bills" in any of my offspring. Still a very beautiful morph!
Last edited by Brandon Osborne; 12-07-2011 at 08:42 PM.
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I have never heard of kinking in super cinny/black pastels, though I have heard of duck bills.
I will be doing more research on it now that it has been brought to my attention.
*Heather*
I can't keep up with what I have 
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Super Cinnies have a chance of being kinked and Super Black Pastels have a chance of being duck billed.
It is common to cross a Cinnamon with a Black Pastel to make a super so as not to have either of the issues.
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I'd love to see a side-by-side comparison of a good super cinnie with a duck-billed one. I don't think I've ever seen that before!
1.0 Bumblebee (Edgar)
0.1 100% Het albino (Edna)
0.1 Normal/Dinker (Beatrice)
1.0 NG Frilled Dragon (Frank)
1.0 Patternless Leopard Gecko (Bruce)
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Re: Kinking in super cinnamons
Originally Posted by TessadasExotics
Super Cinnies have a chance of being kinked and Super Black Pastels have a chance of being duck billed.
It is common to cross a Cinnamon with a Black Pastel to make a super so as not to have either of the issues.
I thought the "duck bill" issue was also seen with super cinnies ... No?
Has anyone hatched a super black pastel that was kinked, or a black x cinny that had deformities?
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