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    Reptiles EVERYWHERE! Foschi Exotic Serpents's Avatar
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    You'll never let it die will you Dave..

    The firefly thing depends on the quality of the pastel. There are a select few high quality yellow pastels that will not show much browning if at all. Combine that with a great bright fire line and you can improve on both.

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    my fire has lightened up each shed in the short time i'm had it. Can't wait to start working him into some combos.

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    Man, now I want to get a fire too!
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    My fires definitely lightened up with age, though it was most dramatic during the first year or so.
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    Re: Het Black Eyed Lucies DO lighten up as they age....

    Quote Originally Posted by EmberBall View Post
    however, if you expect a Pastel Het Black Eyed Lucy to look better as an adult than as a baby, you will be sorely dissapointed. A Pastel Het Black Eyed Lucy is still part Pastel, and Pastels do brown out! A Pastel Het Black Eyed Lucy is two genes, one lightes up and one browns out, they do not cancel eachother out Focshi. So you can smile all you like, knowing you are giving out incorrect information.

    A Firefly will look better as a baby, because the Pastel gene, as a baby, is usually not browned out. But, once the brown out stage comes, a Firefly will brown out a bit, usually not a complete brown out but lots of brown speckles along its back.

    However, a Sulfur or Fire Mojave will look better as they age, because of the Het Black Eyed Lucy gene, lightening up as they age. The Mojave has no brown out phase....

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    Re: Question about fires.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    You'll never let it die will you Dave..

    The firefly thing depends on the quality of the pastel. There are a select few high quality yellow pastels that will not show much browning if at all. Combine that with a great bright fire line and you can improve on both.
    Excatly,my firespiders look amazing as they get older lighter & lighter!
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    Greg,

    Most Sulfur or Fire combos look great as babies, and as they age, the Het Black eyed Lucy gene kicks in and the snake lightes up. Sulfur Spiders and Spider Fires look great as they age. However, I am saying that because of the PASTEL gene, the Fireflies do not. I have produced them, and can assure everyone, the Pastel gene browns out and the Firefly looks way better as a baby.

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...521#post810521

    I am hoping the above link works, maybe someone more computer savvy than me, can do a screenshot. In the gentleman's ad, he made the statement that Fireflies look better as adults. I asked him a simple question, about what he was basing his statement on. Foschi jumped in and told me to "do some research." That got a bit under my skin, especially since I owned adult Sulfur Pastels and hatched out a handful of them. So, my research was actually breeding the adults, hatching out the babies, watching one grow up to be an adult. I have first hand experience with the project, she did not, and was basing her bashing of me on reading a book or assuming that the Fire or Sulfur gene would erase the brown out. It does not, I would think that a nicer Pastel would brown out a bit less, but they still brown out, and a Sulfur Pastel looks way nicer as a baby. Foschi jumped into a thread where she was ignorant of the subject matter, and acted like she was a Firefly scholar. It looks like it has become a pattern with her, look at her Platty thread and several others.

    To be clear, I am not talking about other Sulfur crosses, but just the Pastel cross. The Sulfur gene or Fire gene does not stop the browning out of the Pastel gene. YES, Firefly adults will look better than Pastel adults, but that was not the arguement, Sulfur Pastels look better as babies, than as adults.

    Dave

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    Re: Question about fires.

    i like you site but it is very harrow for child
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