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    A Siamese or Himalayan rat with agouti washes out the color and points, making it hard recognize as a Siamese or Himalayan.
    Burmese baby from agouti het Siamese X Siamese

    Burmese on left Siamese on right
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    Re: Possibly a Himalayan?

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    The rat didn't overwrite the genes, it just molted into it's adult coat.
    Yeah, bad choice of words. I didn't mean overwrite on a genetic level. What I meant is the hooded gene at first had the melanocytes producing pigment around the head and back in the hooded pattern until the Himalayan gene kicked in and disabled those melanocytes from producing any pigment except at the points (nose and base of the tail).

    The Himalayan being dominate overtook the hooded rather than overwritten it. That hooded gene is still there, just hidden now.

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Burmese baby from agouti het Siamese X Siamese

    Burmese on left Siamese on right
    Very cool. The agouti Siamese is much more defined that I thought it would be.
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    This is pre-molt, after molt the points kind of lighten up and the whole rat looks like a cinnamon color, pretty neat looking IMO
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    Very interesting. I'm having almost as much fun producing and combining these rat morphs as I do BP morphs.

    So far i've picked out Russian Blues, Himalayans, PEW's, REW's and BEW's out of my last few feeder orders.

    I've got an order of 50 rats coming in on Tues, I'm looking forward to seeing what I get in this kinda genetics potluck.
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    Up until last night we thought one of our girls was a siamese. Her shed is finally over and it's clear she is a Himi now. It's very interesting~ If you get a chance breed two lines, one black based siamese and one agouti based. The two are wonderfully unique in their own way.

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