Are ringers hereditary...hmmm, maybe.

[davkaufman]

So here's the story; I bred a pied to a female cinny who was at the time 50% het pied. Guess what? She's 0% pied. What a pisser. Anyway, mom has an interesting ringer by her tail and all these years I've heard ringers don't mean anything, and I agreed...until this little beauty hatched out last night. Interesting; a ringer in the same spot mom has one. Could this be hereditary? Any thoughts on this?
BTW, check out that funky stripe down her back. I've already named this morph "definite holdback".

[slackerz]

hmmm,nice pattern too..

[koloo921]

I think that they are genetic. I have 4 het pied sisters. 2 of them have slight ringers! I'm going to breed one to my pewter ringer male and see if anything happens!

Check out Dave's thread!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...amps-post-shed

[llovelace]

Welcome to BP.net , lately there seem to be many proving that ringers are hereditary, nice hatchling you got there, it should be named "I want to go live at Lisa's"

[Lucas339]

welcome Dav!! nice to see you here! post some of your bulls in the pit section!

[purplemuffin]

Gorgeous pattern too! Good luck with this project!

[EverEvolvingExotics]

I can see why you are holding her back, amazing!

[davkaufman]

Thanks everyone. She's about to have her first shed. Can't wait to see that ringer turn white!

[mues155]

That baby is gorgeous!Very interesting pattern on him for sure.

You could have just gotten hosed on the odds of the clutch.
What did you end up getting in the whole clutch?
Just because you didnt produce any pieds this time, i wouldnt rule out the cinny being 50% het, unless of course being 50% het goes a little differently. This i do not know. I only work with 100% hets.
Just trying to maybe give you some hope

As far as ringers go, Im no help. I have a little 100g fire thats is a ringer and I plan to fit him into my future breeding program. But as far as Ive heard, ringer is still unknown in what causes it. But for you to produce a ringer from mom who is a ringer is pretty good, if baby produces another ringer one day then I'd day you have strong proof that it could be genetic IMO.

Either way you made cinnys het for pied and those are a pretty penny and a great project.
Congrats!

[davkaufman]

Thanks muse, I thought of that too. She laid three good eggs. I got 1.1 het pieds, and this girl. I haven't decided who her bunk mate will be next season yet. I'm leaning towards pairing her up with a bee and making some black widows. We'll see. I have another pos het cinny that I'll prove out (or not) next season so if anything I may have a pair of 100% het pied cinnys that would be unrelated.