What do we know about breeding Bananas?

[dr del]

Heh,

How does this explain males coming males though?

Now there you have me.

The only thing I can think of would be a snake with extra sex genes ( so a male could be ZZW or ZZZ and a female WWZ ). I know that can happen in other animals but I have zero clue on how rare it would be or if that would resemble the probability of a male banana in a clutch.


dr del

[purplemuffin]

Hmm.. The only thing I remember reading about those sorts of things was about females with WW chromosomes. There was a boa who gave birth on her own(no male) and all of the babies born were WW instead of WZ. Of course the testing wasn't really done that well, the snake was still bred during the time, but the babies all only carried her genes and the recessive morph despite the males not carrying the recessive trait. Still would be nice to see if she does it again without males present.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1103111210.htm

random, but sort of related. Chromosomes do weird things.

[kellysballs]

Okay from what I have heard I do not believe that bananas are a sexlinked trait. It would be like colorblindness in humans except opposite. Basically it would be like a recessive trait in males with male bananas only being produced from the breeding of male banana to female banana. With females only needing one copy of the mutated gene to be a banana. This theory is blown out of the water since males have been produced from females bred to mutations other than banana.

Also I am doing a research project on the effects of incubation temps on balls. One incubator is at 86 degrees the other 91 degrees. I am getting 43% males at 86F and 54% males at 91F. So unless they are incubating at some crazy temp I can't see it being temp either. I just think it was "bad" odds for the past few years in the case of bananas. From what I have heard there have been quite a few banana males produced this year.

[OhhWatALoser]

From what I have heard there have been quite a few banana males produced this year.

from females

[Thesnakepitt]

from females

So why were the other years different ? Where were all the males the other years ?

[purplemuffin]

Maybe someone figured out how to make them/stumbled upon it by dumb luck?

[OhhWatALoser]

So why were the other years different ? Where were all the males the other years ?

Females take time to grow up and one male can bred multiple females.

[jluman]

So why were the other years different ?

Probably because there were a few more females of reproductive age this year.

[Royal Morphz]

Could we be glossing over the greed factor in humans? I touched on it on another forum. By keeping males in low supply would keep the value on males high. At one time a male emu( large flightless bird) was 20 times the price of females. The reason why is because the main breeder of emu in the US was culling most males. This could explain low male numbers and the price tag as well.

[OhhWatALoser]

Could we be glossing over the greed factor in humans? I touched on it on another forum. By keeping males in low supply would keep the value on males high. At one time a male emu( large flightless bird) was 20 times the price of females. The reason why is because the main breeder of emu in the US was culling most males. This could explain low male numbers and the price tag as well.

I think there too many people working with the morph now to keep that a possibility. Only if people start breeding males and getting the expected 50/50 all of a sudden would I see that a possibility. It would be a lot of people lying at this point.