Snake Vomit?

[Johan]

That is almost certainly a regurge. I have never heard of a snake bm that was animal like. I'd also suggest another vet. Two regurges would almost certainly be a serious issue.

[Twiz]

This was my first time going to this vet, but good news, I think.... I just caught her in action like just 5 mins ago and those things are definitely coming out of her vent I just saw her pass one and it looks exactly like the other 2. There were never any bones in the first 2 and both seemed pretty digested and not at all close to the size of the mice she ate. I guess shes just not digesting hair or something which is the conclusion we came to in the first thread. With that amount of hair still there it kinda still looks like a mouse. I'm still keeping a close eye out for anything weird. Should I still skip her next feeding and downsize when she continues just to be safe for now?

[jbean7916]

You actually witnessed this happening again and are sure it was out of her vent? I'd be worried about that too! Why wouldnt the snake be digesting completely? Ive never seen poop that didn't look like poop.

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[AkHerps]

If she is pooping these out as bowel movements, this seems really frequent for the snake to be digesting all of the nutrients which is maybe why they are coming out really quickly.

I would think keeping regular weight checks would see if your snake is digesting any of the rodent, or just passing it through undigested..

[dr del]

Hi,

Those aren't normal bowel movements.

Have we asked how you are heating and how and where you measure in the temps?


dr del

[Twiz]

Hi,

Those aren't normal bowel movements.

Have we asked how you are heating and how and where you measure in the temps?


dr del

I know they aren't normal this is why I got worried in the first place, I am just glad to see that she isn't regurging. I haven't lowered my guard with the situation yet just a bit relieved to see it was a BM instead of regurge. I did pick up a nice digital scale to keep track of her weight. How often should I weigh her? Is once a week good?

I use a UTH on the warm side and a red light to bring up ambient air temp, both of these are on the plug in style dimmer switches. The temp in her warm hide is currently 92.7 and ambient temp in middle of the tank is currently 84.5. I use an Acu-rite indoor outdoor thermometer with the probe buried right over the UTH, and I mounted the unit on the back wall of the tank in the middle approx 1/2" above substrate using a few dabs of silicone on the back around the edges so I can cut it out for cleaning. The wire is buried under multiple inches of coco fiber so there is no chance of her 'digging' it up and the probe is secured with a built up dab of silicone as well with about 1"-1 1/2" packed coco fiber under that hide. The unit also has a hygrometer which is currently reading 58%

[RichsBallPythons]

Having bowel movements like that with half digested rodents is just as bad as a regurge.

Which is why you need a new vet. Any good vet would of given flagyl as its cheap and does wonders for snakes.

[Twiz]

I'm not comfortable giving my snake any meds without knowing 100% what the cause is, especially meds that she can build up resistance to. From my understanding of the last thread it is not uncommon for snakes to have undigested hair in their BM and that is still a possibility of what is going on here. I examined the first one myself when I found it and it was well digested as in I didn't find bones, organs, flesh or anything that resembled a mouse other than the thick coating of hair.

I'm looking around for a different vet at this point but wont be able to afford another visit this week unless its absolutely necessary i.e. decline in weight, activity, appearance of health. She is still quite active in the evening hours before I go to bed and she is still thermoregulating, so far the only thing out of the norm is extremely furry poop.

Again, I'm still keeping a close eye on everything and haven't let my guard down. I will weigh her every few days and try to monitor her activity each night and if anything else raises a flag it's off to a new vet.

[RichsBallPythons]

Snakes CANT digest fur period. But those pictures is not a bowel movement of just fur.

Flagyl is not a med that they build resistance to. Its a med used to kill internal parasites and helps snakes digest food better with the added bonus of better feeding response. Few dosings will help this snake over time.

Like i said get a better vet

[dr del]

Hi,

I know they aren't normal this is why I got worried in the first place, I am just glad to see that she isn't regurging. I haven't lowered my guard with the situation yet just a bit relieved to see it was a BM instead of regurge. I did pick up a nice digital scale to keep track of her weight. How often should I weigh her? Is once a week good?

I use a UTH on the warm side and a red light to bring up ambient air temp, both of these are on the plug in style dimmer switches. The temp in her warm hide is currently 92.7 and ambient temp in middle of the tank is currently 84.5. I use an Acu-rite indoor outdoor thermometer with the probe buried right over the UTH, and I mounted the unit on the back wall of the tank in the middle approx 1/2" above substrate using a few dabs of silicone on the back around the edges so I can cut it out for cleaning. The wire is buried under multiple inches of coco fiber so there is no chance of her 'digging' it up and the probe is secured with a built up dab of silicone as well with about 1"-1 1/2" packed coco fiber under that hide. The unit also has a hygrometer which is currently reading 58%

We might be getting somewhere ( or not ) but can you take a temp reading on top of that packed down substrate inside the warm end hide?

Low temps would cause the snake to have problems digesting and that is a lot of substrate between the heater and the snake.

I know they can burrow down but packed down coco-fibre might be a little trickier.


dr del