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    Thinking about getting a dog....

    So I have wanted a dog for my entire life but my dad never allowed big pets in the house. Then when I went off to school I didnt have any money to take care of one so I continued to put it off and then when I moved in with my buddy he didn't want a dog at his house either. Now I am going to pursue another degree and am moving to Lubbock so I will be on my own so thats why I might get one. I have plenty of cash saved to feed myself, my snakes and a dog as well.

    Here is my problem. I can't decide whether or not to adopt one or just buy one from a breeder. I like the idea of adopting just for the principal of it all, but my fear is that I don't know if it has been abused in the past and I fear that could make them fairly unpredictable. If I am going to get my first pup, I want to be able to rain it and play with it as if I have been raising it since day one. Also, I really don't want a big dog, more like a small/medium to medium sized dog. It seems like most of the dogs that I see at the SPCA are unknown mixed breed and there is really no telling how big they will actually get. My other dilema is that my gf has bad allergies and so getting a hypoallergenic dog would kind of be crucial as well. Unfortunately all of them are complete chick dogs.... crushing.

    As of now I am thinking either a Coton (if I have to settle for a no allergy). I figure if I HAVE to have a chick dog, it might as well be a prestiege breed. Or my other choice that I am leaning towards is a boglen terrier (boston terrier/beagle mix).

    What are yalls opinions on the adopt/buy idea as well as other recomendations for medium sized dog? Thanks!
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    I don't think of Boston Terriers as "chick dogs". I've wanted one for years...

    As for the adopt/buy debate, there are always dogs in shelters looking for homes, but if you are set on a specific breed, there's nothing wrong with finding a reputable breeder to buy from.

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    I am huge on adopting. I volunteer for my local shelter and I see hundreds of dogs and cats a year that would make amazing pets, history or not. Even if you don't go to a shelter, there are tons of rescues for specific breeds you can find, just google them in your state. These dogs go through various "testing" and trials to be sure they are good pets before they are adopted out. Some even get professional training courtesy of the shelter/rescue. They are all also fixed which is a plus.
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    Re: Thinking about getting a dog....

    i don't know about "boglen terrier" i assume this is one of these new desiginer muts that people make a funny name for and then charge big bucks for. but bostons are no "chick dog" they might be small but they have the attitude of a wolf and any that i have ever meet are charming and tough as nails. adaopting a pet and saving a life is a very noble way to bring a new family member home and if you shop around you very well might find the perfect new pet at a shelter. but as said above if you want a speceifeic breed find a good breeder with references and remember just like anything else you get what you pay for when it come to pure breeds.

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    Re: Thinking about getting a dog....

    IF you're going to buy from a breeder, please please please do your homework. Make sure you're supporting a breeder who health tests their dogs and can offer you OFA numbers so you can verify health testing. They should also temperament test their dogs & can help you determine the best fit for your household. Make sure they are in good standing with their local breed clubs and associations. Make sure they are currently, actively showing and titling their dogs. Ask how they socialize their puppies, what they feed, what their vaccination protocol is, etc.
    They will probably only have one, MAYBE two, planned breedings a year, and there's a good chance you'll be on a waiting list for a while before the right puppy comes along. Very rarely will you see both parents on site, because these breeders are taking an active part in seeking out the best dog to which to breed theirs, in order to strengthen bloodlines and balance faults in their own dogs. Beware of "breeders" with lots of dogs on the premises, or who raise theirs in kennels.
    A good breeder should have at least as many questions for you as you have for them, if not more. Be prepared for what may seem like a rigorous puppy application, limited registrations with a spay/neuter contract, and potential home checks.

    There are a LOT of dogs haphazardly bred every year by puppy mills, unscrupulous "backyard breeders" who just want to make a buck, as well as the truly clueless who just think their dogs are nice, so they should breed them because, wouldn't everyone else want a dog just as nice? Most of the time these dogs have no health testing, no temperament testing and frequently end up rehomed, in rescues, dumped at the pound or worse.

    If for some reason you can't invest the time and resources into locating a breeder in good standing of the purebred in which you may be interested, please, please consider contacting a rescue or adoption group. You'll still have to go through the application process & will probably have to do a home check, but you'll also get a lot of support in finding the exact dog for your situation, going through the right rescue or adoption league. Good rescue groups are a wonderful resource, and do lots of temperament testing and really try to match the dog to the potential owner and the owner's situation.

    In either case, be up front with what your expectations are for a dog in your household, what your experience level is in raising & training a puppy, and don't be afraid to ask for help when necessary. Do your homework on proper nutrition, puppy socialization, and what it actually takes to successfully raise a well-trained, good-mannered dog that is an ambassador for the canine species as a whole, regardless of breed. Find a good obedience training club in your area, and be prepared to take your dog to classes. In addition to utilizing the skills of a good trainer (check references!!), the right classes will help with your dog's ongoing socialization (most critical as a puppy, but important throughout the dog's life).

    Please, be very, very leery of backyard breeders who don't health or temperament test, and only think about lining their own pockets, instead of actively striving to improve the breed they claim to love.

    Good luck finding the right dog!

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    If you want a specific breed and want to adopt look for breed specific rescues. There is one for almost every breed out there you just have to see if there is any in your area. Try petfinder.com it is a list of many rescue dogs in your area.
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    Re: Thinking about getting a dog....

    Quote Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    I am huge on adopting. I volunteer for my local shelter and I see hundreds of dogs and cats a year that would make amazing pets, history or not. Even if you don't go to a shelter, there are tons of rescues for specific breeds you can find, just google them in your state. These dogs go through various "testing" and trials to be sure they are good pets before they are adopted out. Some even get professional training courtesy of the shelter/rescue. They are all also fixed which is a plus.
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    How long are you going to be on your own and in a situation that allows you to keep the dog. A 10-15 year commitment is what you'll be making and you want to be sure that you'll be able to stick with it before getting one.

    In the time I've had my current dog I have gotten married, moved a few times, and had 2 kids. Every decision we've made we have had to take the dog into consideration. We have missed out on houses we wanted because of no dog policies, and ended up living in ones we would have not considered had it not been needed. I had a pediatrician tell me I shouldn't be keeping a large dog with small children and should look into getting rid of her.... We got rid of the pediatrician instead....

    Point is if your unsure of how your ability to commit long term maybe put it off until your sure of that, or look into adopting an older dog.

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    Re: Thinking about getting a dog....

    Thanks for your replies. Let me clarify what I meant. I do not consider Boston's chick dogs at all either. The Coton de Culear is the one that would be a chick dog. The bolgen, aka boggle, aka beagle x boston hybrid isn't hypo allergenic but I just like them alot. My buddy has one and its a VERY smart and playful pup. As far as rescues go, I will continue to look, but finding that particular "mutt" may be difficuly. I'll definitely keep my eyes peeled though. I guess it might end up being just like ball pythons... just gotta wait it out for the right one.

    As far as breeders, if I did end up getting the Coton it would be from family friends who treat there dogs like kings and queens and they are champion line pups. I am still trying to search for boggle breeders, but as we all know the internet isn't always accurate so I feel like I would have a hard time identifying that the breeder was actually legit. Especially because this mix isn't recognized by the dog breeder associations that have all those certifications, iots still considered a mutt to most.
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    Re: Thinking about getting a dog....

    Quote Originally Posted by PweEzy View Post
    Thanks for your replies. Let me clarify what I meant. I do not consider Boston's chick dogs at all either. The Coton de Culear is the one that would be a chick dog. The bolgen, aka boggle, aka beagle x boston hybrid isn't hypo allergenic but I just like them alot. My buddy has one and its a VERY smart and playful pup. As far as rescues go, I will continue to look, but finding that particular "mutt" may be difficuly. I'll definitely keep my eyes peeled though. I guess it might end up being just like ball pythons... just gotta wait it out for the right one.

    As far as breeders, if I did end up getting the Coton it would be from family friends who treat there dogs like kings and queens and they are champion line pups. I am still trying to search for boggle breeders, but as we all know the internet isn't always accurate so I feel like I would have a hard time identifying that the breeder was actually legit. Especially because this mix isn't recognized by the dog breeder associations that have all those certifications, iots still considered a mutt to most.
    Most (not all but most) breeders of hybrids are in it for the money. I can tell you from personal experience that you can most likely find a Boglen in a rescue. They can be very difficult to train for first time owners. They are stubborn, thick headed and a huge ball of energy. These things lead them to be dropped off at rescues because they are "untrainable".
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