Desert Storm???

[LotsaBalls]

Big Gunns never said they were a "dwarf" Ball Python. As a matter of fact, he hasn't said anything either way. He does know the real "truth" though. He is just tying to decide whether he should give them the thumbs up, or throw them and their breeders in the fish fryer.

Absolute 100% positive "truth" that is. The whole "truth" and nothing but "THE TRUTH". Let BG make that perfectly clear. He wouldn't even be posting on this thread, but although it rarely happens......someone got BG a leeetle po'd(BG realizes this person was misled, but still BG is po'd). When that happens....you had better be on the right side of the argument.

ps. BG will agree with you also, most Balls do not get huge. BG was really trying to point out that he only has one.

So? What's the truth? I could use some today...

[harbor reptiles]

I'm a little confused. I thought the question was not whether or not the females put on sufficient weight. But if they were capable of producing viable clutches. Someone with true knowledge please clarify. Thanks

[Monster Dodge]

I'm a little confused.

A little? LOL..... There should be a manual on how to read BG's threads

[Albey]

I'm a little confused. I thought the question was not whether or not the females put on sufficient weight. But if they were capable of producing viable clutches. Someone with true knowledge please clarify. Thanks

They are definitely able to produced viable clutches. That has already been established. Now people are bringing up something that Stan Chiras said in 2008 on his thinking they may be a dwarf sized Ball Python. See my post here to see what I am talking about. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=1#post1535051

[Big Gunns]

They are definitely able to produced viable clutches. That has already been established. Now people are bringing up something that Stan Chiras said in 2008 on his thinking they may be a dwarf sized Ball Python. See my post here to see what I am talking about. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=1#post1535051

Well then Albs...maybe BG doesn't need to say anything since you seem to be the expert. Please explain to everyone how you know they are "definitely able to produce viable clutches". BG is not completely doubting your claim since maybe BG knows this to be true also. He would just like to know how YOU can be "DEFINITELY" sure. Please enlighten all of BG's 2 fans.

[Albey]

Well then Albs...maybe BG doesn't need to say anything since you seem to be the expert. Please explain to everyone how you know they are "definitely able to produce viable clutches". BG is not completely doubting your claim since maybe BG knows this to be true also. He would just like to know how YOU can be "DEFINITELY" sure. Please enlighten all of BG's 2 fans.

Mike Powell produced a clutch from a Female Desert and it was from your good friend Pete Kahl’s line. There is one other clutch from one of PE’s customers also. Robyn was not at liberty to say who that was. Oh by the way, there were a lot of people stating that you were “The Truth” in the original post on Kingsnake. I knew that wasn’t possible for many reasons but mostly because you wouldn’t have been such a wimp and hidden behind such a lame ass name.

[Big Gunns]

Mike Powell produced a clutch from a Female Desert and it was from your good friend Pete Kahl’s line. There is one other clutch from one of PE’s customers also. Robyn was not at liberty to say who that was. Oh by the way, there were a lot of people stating that you were “The Truth” in the original post on Kingsnake. I knew that wasn’t possible for many reasons but mostly because you wouldn’t have been such a wimp and hidden behind such a lame ass name.

Well there you have it, Albs has cleared everything up. There's no possible way these two things could be false. They're "definitely" true.

Might not have been the greatest idea for some to call BG "The Truth". Actually, that wasn't all that bad, but when you call him "The Truth" and many other things, you force BG to respond. How much he continues to respond is still undecided by the evil genius.

[Failshed]

So? What's the truth? I could use some today...

"The Truth" is we are going to have to wait and see. At least that is what I'm doing. Price is the main concern, as I do this for a hobby, but ability of the animal to reproduce is also on my list. It is all on you to make the decision to buy an animal or not. I bought a Spider even though I knew the animal would have a "wobble'. I did not buy Caramels because I did not want to produce kinked animals.

I didn't mean to cause anything by starting this thread. I just wanted other opinions. I LOVE the Desert gene, and my brother wants to work with them. I would also love to own a few of the morph combos myself. But like I said before, I can't afford them right now and all this hoo-pla weighs in on my decision. I hope that it is not true, but for now I will let those with the Deserts do the tinkering.

Also, I think with everything that is being said, breeders are going to go out of their way to post everything the can about female Deserts on eggs. (Although BG said that those photos could be faked) I believe that within the next 2-3 years we will know for sure. Until then, I will keep wanting my Desert-Lesser-Enchi.

BG only asks for patience fans. You'll just have to hang in there until BG speaks to a couple more people.

ps. on a lighter note. BG may post some snake pics for a change.

Also, totally waiting for both of these to happen!

[PweEzy]

Soooo, who's desert females have laid eggs this year? HAHA, anybody get that rumor breaking clutch yet this year? Just wondering if any updates

[Emilio]

Soooo, who's desert females have laid eggs this year? HAHA, anybody get that rumor breaking clutch yet this year? Just wondering if any updates

The end of this season should shed some light on this issue many of us can't wait to see and hear the findings.