Super Pastel?

[bpfan]

Hey Everyone,

New to this site and the world of ball pythons. Was really into snakes in general when I was younger but my parents wouldn't let me bring one into the house.
Any way's I've been researching and am thinking of starting a small hobby business breeding ball's. I came accross an add on the internet for a Super Pastel for a good price.

From the research I've done this looks like a Super but I just wanted the opinions of some people on this site so any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Sorry not sure how to post pic so here's a link :

http://http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=274643182&ImageIndex=2

and

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLar...AdId=274643182

If for some reason the links don't work, let me know and I'll try to re-post.

Thanks!

[rexrem]

Yup, that's a super pastel. How muchis he selling it for?

[stratus_020202]

I would go and see it in person. The first pic looks like a nice pastel, but the second looks like a super. It seems to be browning out in the first pic, and that tells me it's not a super, or not a good one.

The second pic looks amazing. But, is too washed out from the flash to see for sure. Supers are defined by extreme head blushing, and not a lot of black. Like here:

http://newenglandreptile.com/nerd/in...er-pastel.html

Notice the "white" blushing on their head, and how the black bands are "washed out"?

Maybe we can get some members to post their supers for comparison. Good luck & Welcome!

[bpfan]

Thanks for the confirmation,

He was asking for $500 for the complete setup which included a 30 gal tank, locking screen, multiple hides, heating mat, water dish, decorations etc, and a nice stand. I was probably going to sell off the tank once I get into the hobby a little more and get a rack setup.
I was going to offer him $400 and see what happened.

Sound like a decent deal to you?

[rexrem]

I would go and see it in person. The first pic looks like a nice pastel, but the second looks like a super. It seems to be browning out in the first pic, and that tells me it's not a super, or not a good one.

The second pic looks amazing. But, is too washed out from the flash to see for sure. Supers are defined by extreme head blushing, and not a lot of black. Like here:

http://newenglandreptile.com/nerd/in...er-pastel.html

Notice the "white" blushing on their head, and how the black bands are "washed out"?

Maybe we can get some members to post their supers for comparison. Good luck & Welcome!

I agree, the second picture looks more like a super pastel than the first. It's always better to see it in person. I've seen pastels a couple of months old that look like supers and super pastels that look like high quality pastels.

Here is a picture of my super pastel


Hope this helps

Thanks for the confirmation,

He was asking for $500 for the complete setup which included a 30 gal tank, locking screen, multiple hides, heating mat, water dish, decorations etc, and a nice stand. I was probably going to sell off the tank once I get into the hobby a little more and get a rack setup.
I was going to offer him $400 and see what happened.

Sound like a decent deal to you?

Is it a male or female? How old id the snake?

[rexrem]

I saw the ad and it's a good deal if it is indeed a super pastel. The set up looks well kept. Ask him where he bought it and if he has the receipt from the breeder stating he's a super.

[bpfan]

Definetely helps! Thanks for the pics.

The one I'm looking at was born Fall 2009 currently is a reported 1030 grams and is male.

I think I'm going to have to go look at him in person because as you mentioned the pictures weren't the best.

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far !!! Having a resource like this is a BIG help for the noob

[rexrem]

Definetely helps! Thanks for the pics.

The one I'm looking at was born Fall 2009 currently is a reported 1030 grams and is male.

I think I'm going to have to go look at him in person because as you mentioned the pictures weren't the best.

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far !!! Having a resource like this is a BIG help for the noob

No problem! Good luck! Remember, if it's too good to be true, run!

[bpfan]

Just saw your last post rexrem,

I had asked him and that's the only thing that I'm slightly worried about is that he got it from a local pet shop (Big Al's), but I'm going to ask him if he has a receipt that says that it's a Super. From what I've read about the shop where he got it is a fairly reputable chain, who claim to use breeders, but a receipt would always be better than word of mouth.

[Homegrownscales]

It looks like a nice pastel but I'm not seeing super. The super that was posted is gorgeous and you can see that the black is almost bleached looking. On the picture I looked at on the ad theres too much black for him to be a super. Being from the fact that he was bought in a Petstore it's doubtful that he's a real super pastel and the seller may have been douped himself. Just my .02