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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

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    Zina is so right! There is something noxious about cig smoke - it only takes a little bit and everything stinks of it. I can smell it from a block or more away if the wind is blowing my way.
    The problem is that smokers don't realize how nasty they (and everything around them) stink. To a smoker, it's normal.

    I'm a reformed smoker. One of my big eye-openers was when I was trading in a car. In the process of cleaning it up inside I grabbed some windex and started cleaning the inside of the windshield. It was bizarre when I realized I was having to clean off a film of nasty brown crap...it was on the windshield, the headliner, the seats, dash, everything...that was one of the moments where I thought "I've got to quit"...also took a hit on trade-in value because of the cig smell...

    I quit by using the patch for the first couple of days and then stuck with it. The patch helped with the actual addiction as well as getting out of the habit of lighting up after dinner, when I hopped in the car, while having morning coffee, while aggravated at work. There were so many things that triggered the cravings... The patch and a whole lot of will-power can help get you through them.

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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

    Quote Originally Posted by simple man View Post
    if people quit smoking maybe they could afford their own dwelling. Food for thought.

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    To me it is not about the smell (it does and it stinks) its not about the butts (smokers are not the only ones whom litter) it is about one thing tobacco smoke is a carcenogen and a strong one. I spent some time with an oncologist last year lending moral support with a friend (non smoker with lung cancer) and the question of how did this happen to me came up. The anser was an anology.

    It is like walking blind folded accross a big street, if you go across at 3 am there are is less chance of getting hit against walking across at rush hour. But you can get hit at 3 general health and genetics change things but once is all it takes.

    Cancer is caused by radioactive particles ONE can do it. It embeds in tissues and causes cells around it to die, mutate and not reproduce or mutate and reproduce. Mutate and reproduce is called cancer. ONE single radioactive particle. Polonium 210 (radioactive) is in every cigarette there is a higher concentration of this in the second hand smoke. So yes you can get cancer from ONE exposure. The more exposure you have (remember crossing the road) the better your chances become.

    1 in 5 die as a direct result of smoking. It is your right to play russian roulette (oh better odds there. 1 in 6) but is it not your right to involve me. I have seen cancer up close and personal, held the hand of a friend while she died. I doesn't seem too much to ask that smokers walk away from entrances and windows of people whom have not decided to smoke you do that is fine, I don't so please don't make me.

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    Oh yeah, why DO smokers feel it is okay to throw their butts out the window? Every traffic light around here is littered with them

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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

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    Oh yeah, why DO smokers feel it is okay to throw their butts out the window? Every traffic light around here is littered with them
    Providing a job for the guys in orange jump suits. Helping American citizens one butt at a time.
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    About 10 years ago a study was done in SoCal. It was estimated that there are enough butts thrown on the ground each year to FILL the Rose Bowl. That's just here in SoCal. Talk about disrespect.
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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

    I wish they would leave smokers alone. Beyond making them put warning labels on cigarettes the government needs to but out. I don't smoke but what the government has done to the tobacco industry is patently unamerican. If people wanna smoke and suffer the health effects thats there right. Whether the tobacco is flavored or not, and they should be allowed to advertise.


    It's just ridiculous and another case of to much government overstepping there bounds.
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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seru1 View Post
    I wish they would leave smokers alone. Beyond making them put warning labels on cigarettes the government needs to but out. I don't smoke but what the government has done to the tobacco industry is patently unamerican. If people wanna smoke and suffer the health effects thats there right. Whether the tobacco is flavored or not, and they should be allowed to advertise.


    It's just ridiculous and another case of to much government overstepping there bounds.
    Then who is going to keep the air I breathe free from smoke? Who will keep the restaurants smoke free? The Grocery Stores? When I was kid, I remember people smoking while they were in the Grocery Store - I would walk down the aisle and it was awful.

    Why do they get the freedom to smoke, but non smokers don't get the freedom to NOT smell that garbage?

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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

    Quote Originally Posted by knox View Post
    Then who is going to keep the air I breathe free from smoke? Who will keep the restaurants smoke free? The Grocery Stores? When I was kid, I remember people smoking while they were in the Grocery Store - I would walk down the aisle and it was awful.

    Why do they get the freedom to smoke, but non smokers don't get the freedom to NOT smell that garbage?

    The health risks of second hand smoke have been way overblown. If you don't like it walk away.


    EDIT: If a Restaurant or Grocery store wants to ban smoking on the premises Fine I support that. To force them to, No I can't abide that.
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    Re: New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seru1 View Post
    The health risks of second hand smoke have been way overblown. If you don't like it walk away.


    EDIT: If a Restaurant or Grocery store wants to ban smoking on the premises Fine I support that. To force them to, No I can't abide that.
    EHHHhh, wrong answer.

    Your right to enjoy your poison does not give you the right to poison anyone else. I seriously disagree with your statement about second hand smoke and dare you to post sources for it.
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