het question

[cecilbturtle]

i am looking to get a pair of het pieds. how do i know i am getting what is advertised? i see people offer paper work to guarantee they are true hets but couldnt anyone simply type up what they want? what kind of "weight" does the paper work actually have? isnt it possible that a TRUE pair of hets never produce a homozygous animal?

oh, and im sorry if this is in the wrong section.

thanks,
luke

[LeviBP]

Buy them from someone you trust! Papers can mean a lot, but only if they are from a reputable breeder, not just any joe schmo.

[Sushi Dragons]

The paperwork is only as good as the person who provides it. I would ONLY buy hets from a reputable breeder. Basically, someone with a good reputation and a functioning presence in the reptile community.

But yes, it is possible for two 100% hets to never throw a visual morph. The chances are that it will happen eventually, but I have seen breeders work with a het pair for 5 years before finally producing the homozygous form.

[OhhWatALoser]

Papers are just for reselling the animal, if bhb sells me a het and john schmo sells me a het with papers, who do still feel more comfortable with? I think pictures of parents breeding and clutch photos mean more than papers to me. of course they can still be faked, that's why reputation is the biggest thing.

but since john schmo might buy an animal from bhb and then resell it later, john schmo can show the paper work he got from bhb to the buyer. Bout the only use I see of papers.

but to answer your question, you will not know what your buying 100%, anything can be faked, though most people just don't take the time or effort to do it. If you ever got caught, your rep would be ruined and no one besides unknowing customers would buy from you.

Of course a true pair of hets could possibly never produce a homozygous, always a chance, 75% of the time it will not be homozygous. but after 10 eggs, you only have a 5% chance of not producing a single homozygous. after 20 eggs you only got a .3% chance.

[cecilbturtle]

okay, that makes total sense to me. thank you!

funny you mention bhb. i just sent brian an email inquiring about a het pied pair.

thanks again

[Stewart_Reptiles]

It all comes down to buying from a REPUTABLE breeder.