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    Little help please?

    So I have a pastel YB male and a female pastel and female normal.. I'm thinking if I throw him to the pastel I will get
    33%% super pastel
    33% super pastel YB
    33% pastel YB
    right???

    And if he goes to the normal I would get
    50% pastel
    50% YB

    Just want to know if I'm thinking of this right
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    Re: Little help please?

    Hi,

    Sadly not.

    Running it through the genetics calculator here we get;


    And with the normal female;


    Nice calculator by the way.


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    How do you get a normal? The female pastel has one normal gene and the pastel YB has no normal gene but you can still get a normal?
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    1.10 Normal - Hades . Zues and company
    1.0 Lesser - " "
    1.0 66% het pied - Perses
    1.0 Spider - Eros
    1.0 Pastel YB - Helios
    0.1 Pastel - Rhea
    0.1 Pied
    1.0 Pinstripe
    Redtail Boa
    1.0 Tiki
    Bearded Dragon
    1.0 Cronus
    Crested Geckos
    0.0.1 Red Tiger
    0.0.1 Orange Dalmatian
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    Re: Little help please?

    Hi,

    Pastel is a het form so there is a normal gene there and yellowbelly is also het so there is a normal there.

    If there were no normal genes then it would be a superpastel ivory not a pastel yellowbelly.


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    Re: Little help please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus10 View Post
    How do you get a normal? The female pastel has one normal gene and the pastel YB has no normal gene but you can still get a normal?
    The male Yellowbelly Pastel is not a homozygous form. Its basically a double het for ivory and super pastel, if you look at it that way, and has a "normal" gene still.The only way to get no normals is to breed a homozygous to something, such as if your male was an Ivory Pastel OR Super Patel Yellowbelly. Hope that makes sense, lol.

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    So for the pastel YB it has a normal gene and pastel and yellowbelly gene? But the normal isn't showing 0_o

    I think I've confused myself..
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    1.10 Normal - Hades . Zues and company
    1.0 Lesser - " "
    1.0 66% het pied - Perses
    1.0 Spider - Eros
    1.0 Pastel YB - Helios
    0.1 Pastel - Rhea
    0.1 Pied
    1.0 Pinstripe
    Redtail Boa
    1.0 Tiki
    Bearded Dragon
    1.0 Cronus
    Crested Geckos
    0.0.1 Red Tiger
    0.0.1 Orange Dalmatian
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    Re: Little help please?

    Hi,

    Yes - you need to understand the differences between what we call recessive, co-dom and dominant morphs.

    A recessive looks normal as a heterozygous but visualy different as a homozygous.

    A codom looks different (from a normal) as a heterozygous and different again ( from both normal and the het ) as a homozygous.

    A dominant morph looks different (from a normal ) as a het but then looks the same as a het when it is homozygous.

    Pastel and yellowbelly are the het forms of their respective mutations - the homozygous forms (which are the ones that cannot produce normals ) being superpastel and ivory.

    It tales a little getting used to but once it gets sorted out into which morph is in which group things get a lot easier to predict.

    Think of the genes as being in pairs if it helps.

    Pastel = one pastel gene and one normal gene.
    Superpastel = two pastel genes.
    Yellowbelly = one yellowbelly and one normal gene.
    Ivory = two yellowbelly genes.


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    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

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