Hornet ball python

[Lucas339]

10k and 6k snakes and the dude puts up a cell pic......

[Big Gunns]

If you unable to find one else where, and he's only selling it for $10,000 I'd think it might be a scam. Also, the photo quality is pretty low...someone selling a snake for rockstar cash would have a better camera than that.

I'm no expert, more like a novice with a handful of knowledge. So I don't really know if a hornet exist. But, I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

This is my thoughts exactly!!! The picture does not look like it may have even been altered, but maybe I am wrong.

Both of your posts are the kind of posts that really get under the big fellahs(he wishes) skin. Mr. Steele... you even state that you're "no expert" yet you still go ahead and make this comment. Well Guess what. Big Guns is an expert and he knows it "exists".

Please people, before you go ahead and post on the WORLD WIDE WEB that someone may be trying to rip someone off......please have a leeetle more evidence than you have. You're both wrong, and even though you both are "clearly" no experts...... You may make other "experts" like yourself believe what you're saying.

Sorry BG had to come down on yah, but BG had to do it. He's seen it too many times. Hope you're still in the BG fan club. You know BG is right and he'll accept your apology for your "expert" opinion.(yeah right).

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ight=fred+kick

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ight=fred+kick

read up on some of those threads. They will yield more about Fred Kick and his antics with snake sales

BG will tel yah something about the BOI. BG is sure this will come off as defending Fred Kick. Although BG knows him, BG is more concerned with what happens on the BOI.

The BOI is a great tool for sure. Many times it really loses track of who's right and who's wrong in threads where a deal went bad though. There's too many bozos trying to prove their way of thinking is right. Let's not forget personal vendettas some people have. There's always 2 sides to every story...and like the old saying goes. The trust usually lies somewhere in the middle.

BG would be willing to bet that Fred Kick has done tens of thousands of deals over the years. Yeah....that many. There is no way on BG's green earth that you're gonna make everyone happy. There's no business anywhere on this planet that can say that with that amount of deals done. BG may not like all the wild caught stuff Fred sells(along with high end herps), but he knows that Fred is not gonna come out and blatantly try and rip someone off. Yeah BG knows he's bought WC in the past, but those days are over unless it's a mercy rescue.


BG heard about this animal in question last Saturday and meant to go check it out. BG is sure that at the very least it's a Bumble Bee G stripe....maybe more though. Actually...he had one of those there. This looks like it may be it, but BG isn't 100% sure himself.

10k and 6k snakes and the dude puts up a cell pic......

BG will admit...the pic could have been better.

[TessadasExotics]

I agree with BG on this one. Even if you look at the BOI on Fred, there are no red flag stay away posts, mainly just queries. Fred does a ton of business on both Fauna and Kingsnake. He does have some top quality animals. He should most definitely invest in a better camera or get some one else to take the pics.
As far as the Pet store goes, the charges where dropped which says a lot.
You are not going to please every one every time.

Black Panther Cologne by Odeon 60% of the time, it works every time.

[man-made evolution]

LOL. I have confirmed that it is infact a pastel motleybee or (bumblebee g-stripe). Its hard to say if I really like it or not. usually Idont care for g-stripe at all. But the pic is horrible. Thow there are others that have produced this.

[xFenrir]

Too bad this guy treats his animals... well, I don't even think there's a word for how he treats them. A couple that come to mind are "horrifically", "abysmally", and "inhumanely".

(^If it's the same Fred Kicks in the articles. If not then I'm mistaken and apologize.)



EDIT: Okay, so on further reading the articles are very unclear as to whether the EMPLOYEES were the ones doing all the abuse/neglect and he never knew about it or if it was FRED KICKS himself (either him not caring for the animals or he knew about the neglect and did nothing). I withdraw my previous comment on lack of specifics.

[AaronP]

My Money is on Genetic Stripe Bumble Bee, since it's Fred Kick selling it my money is on the Bells produced it, and they have a very extensive Genetic Stripe project.

[lance]

no clue but just another great morph to love and work with

lance