What are my options?

[Cody John Steele]

I have a male hypo, and a pastel female. Neither a breeding age yet, and I know I can't make a morph out of those two. So I was planning to buy a male spider to pair up with my pastel. Bumblebees make my world go around.

I was just gonna ask what else could I purchase to pair my hypo or pastel with? I'm going to be buying my male spider soon plus a normal female or two, but I'm also looking for something else to be getting up to breeding age. Any suggestions?

P.S. No 5 or 6 gene morphs...

[JLC]

If you did choose to breed the hypo to the pastel, you'd have a chance for pastels that are 100% het hypo. All the normal babies would also be 100% het. You could eventually have hypo pastels...and those are hot!

Of course, a spider male for your pastel female is a solid road to take. Pinstripes are also very popular with pastels.

A suggestion for the hypo male...is to pick up a morph female that is already 100% het hypo....whatever morph you like, because seriously, anything goes good with hypo!

[Cody John Steele]

Alright, Thanks again...as always Judy.

I know I could probably go else where with this question, but if you don't mind answering it that would be nice.

Could you explain how I could "eventually" get the Hypo Pastel?

[JLC]

Alright, Thanks again...as always Judy.

I know I could probably go else where with this question, but if you don't mind answering it that would be nice.

Could you explain how I could "eventually" get the Hypo Pastel?

Breed your pastel to the hypo...and hopefully hatch a pastel-het-hypo female. Grow her up and then mate her back to the hypo for a chance at getting hypo pastels. The "eventually" part means that first, there is no guarantee you'd actually get a female pastel in your first clutch between those two....and second...that you'd have to wait for her to grow up to mating size.

[Cody John Steele]

Sweet! Alright...one more question then I'll let you go. (Hehe) Thanks, by the way!

I've noticed with the crazy 6 gene morphs and even the simple Hypo Pastel like you mentioned, all feature "Line Breeding" so to speak. Are there any certain rules to follow? Like "Father to daughter" but not "Mother to son"? Like dogs or other animals? I've heard of some combos being "Lethal Genes" and you wind up with a bunch of retarded snakes.

[don15681]

another nice combo using your pastel is with a fire. this will give you a chance at producing fireflies in the first breeding. you can get a good deal on a male fire.

[Cody John Steele]

another nice combo using your pastel is with a fire. this will give you a chance at producing fireflies in the first breeding. you can get a good deal on a male fire.

I forgot about fireflies!

Thanks!

[JLC]

I've noticed with the crazy 6 gene morphs and even the simple Hypo Pastel like you mentioned, all feature "Line Breeding" so to speak. Are there any certain rules to follow? Like "Father to daughter" but not "Mother to son"? Like dogs or other animals? I've heard of some combos being "Lethal Genes" and you wind up with a bunch of retarded snakes.

I don't believe there are any hard and fast rules. In the wild, they will mate with whatever animal they encounter that is willing. They don't do background checks and genealogical charts. I believe species that would suffer from line breeding or in breeding have been designed with social structures that prevent such matings, or at least prevent them from occurring too frequently.

My only personal rule about such things is to avoid it with morph lines that are genetically "weak" to begin with. Specifically, spiders and caramels. In those cases, close familial breeding may exacerbate the wobble or kinks.

There haven't been any proven "lethal" genes (That I'm aware of)...although on the fringes of the morph world, there are some mysteries that you're unlikely to need to worry about as you start....such as the super form of the "hidden gene woma" morph, called The Pearl. Some folks wonder if a "super spider" is lethal, but there is no proof of this.

[muddoc]

IThere haven't been any proven "lethal" genes (That I'm aware of)...although on the fringes of the morph world, there are some mysteries that you're unlikely to need to worry about as you start....such as the super form of the "hidden gene woma" morph, called The Pearl. Some folks wonder if a "super spider" is lethal, but there is no proof of this.

Outside of the ones you mentioned, Sable to Spider will produce a cross that is leathal. I have heard rumors of a few others, but the above one is the only one I have been able to prove personally.

[JLC]

Outside of the ones you mentioned, Sable to Spider will produce a cross that is leathal. I have heard rumors of a few others, but the above one is the only one I have been able to prove personally.

I did not know that! What did you experience with this? Babies dying in the egg? Or shortly after hatching? Or...?