Ball Python Registry?

[WingedWolfPsion]

It states on 'herpregistry.com' that a ball python registry was supposed to be created this summer. Summer is over, and obviously the registry has not yet been announced, and there's no link to it.

Does anyone have any information on that? I've personally been waiting for a registry for a long time, and it's far past the point that we should have one.

For those who aren't sure of the purpose of a registry, it's simply this--a centralized database that keeps track of pedigrees. By storing pedigree information in a centralized location, breeders can cooperate to track bloodlines. This aids in the development of new lines, morphs, and morph combos, and also aids in the prevention of excessive inbreeding, as well as preventing hybrids from contaminating gene pools without folks knowing.

At present, there are only registries for corn snakes and Amazon tree boas. The need for registries for ball pythons, boa constrictors, leopard geckos, bearded dragons, panther chameleons, and crested geckos seems fairly obvious to me.

I hope that the project has only been delayed, and hasn't been scrapped.

[FIEND_FO_LYFE]

It would be interesting to try it out...
the only thing is, its based off the fact that WE the public fill it out...
which is great in theory, unless people just dont use it...

[WingedWolfPsion]

Generally, you pay a small fee to register an animal (just as with any existing registry), and the animal then has papers that follow it when it's sold.
If people don't use it, then you have unregistered animals--no big deal. The demand for registered animals will only increase as the database expands.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Really, NO ONE knows anything about this?

[smd58]

never heard of it before, sounds good on paper but how would you keep people honest about the animal ie.... het for whetever. on average you would not prove it out for 2 to 3 years.

[WingedWolfPsion]

The same way other registries do. It isn't exactly difficult to determine fraud when there is a paper trail!
No one selling fake hets is going to register them, and wind up with police knocking on their door when someone finds out about it.

Registration means that person's identity is confirmed, and that animal's identity is confirmed, and it's all kept in a central database. That is more than enough to prosecute for fraud if someone registers a normal as a het. What's more, that individual would be barred from registering animals in the future, and all of the animals that they have registered would likely be removed from the registry.

[wilomn]

The same way other registries do. It isn't exactly difficult to determine fraud when there is a paper trail!
No one selling fake hets is going to register them, and wind up with police knocking on their door when someone finds out about it.

Registration means that person's identity is confirmed, and that animal's identity is confirmed, and it's all kept in a central database. That is more than enough to prosecute for fraud if someone registers a normal as a het. What's more, that individual would be barred from registering animals in the future, and all of the animals that they have registered would likely be removed from the registry.

You say this as if it were fact.

I suspect there are more than a few that will simply stand on their reputations and take no part in any registry.

There is no way you can tell me that what you say is based on anything other than your wishes.

You have no clue how things will/would play out, nor what would happen, will happen knowing people as I do, when a fraud is committed. Who's going to accredit this registry? Who will authority be derived from? How will they apply pressure to any non-member?

I don't see this happening.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Well, if it doesn't happen in 5 years, I'll do it myself.

There's already a corn snake registry, and an Amazon Tree Boa registry, so clearly it's not an insurmountable challenge, lol.

Some of your questions make strange assumptions about how registries work.

[English-bulldog]

That will be a nice way to increase the price on the snakes + & you know are sure if the animals is a real HET for whatever, and not getting ripped off. (although it will still happen.)

[smd58]

Some time you cant go by a reputation, I can think of a few that lost it all over the years by selling hets that were not. The one that comes to mind was vary big back in the day. If something like this would work ide be for it. But i see no way to make it work 100% But it would be nice to buy a het with out thinking is it?