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Pied Genetics
Is the amount of white linked?
Can low white produce high white offspring?
Asking as i might buy a low white it has no white. You can see its pied by the markings could the offspring off this have more white.
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Re: Pied Genetics
Semi-random. From what I have seen high and low will increase the chance that they produce a similar amount. However it does seem that you'll get low whites off high white clutches and vice versa.
You could always just take sibs and breed similar level animals together until you, hopefully, align the genetic factor of amount of white. You will still get random instances since I think it's like pattern (semi-random) but you may increase your chances.
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Re: Pied Genetics
I will say yes. I have seen several different pairings of high and low white, two high white and 2 low white and the babies are always different. The amount of white on the parents has no bearing on the amount of white on the babies. This is just from what I have seen. I am no genetic wizard.
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The common wisdom is that "high white pieds throw low white pieds, and vice versa."
But then you also see breeders such as Roussis bragging about their "high white lines". Or their "high-color lines," or their "genetically stripey pieds," etc.
Having spent HOURS AND HOURS OF MY LIFE on the internet looking at available pieds, and pied clutches, and pied parents, and also pieds pieds pieds, I can say with some confidence that your average pied is on average a bit more likely to throw pieds that look like itself, and that some pieds seem to have genetics which allow them to consistently produce clutch after clutch of very similar-looking babies (though those similar-looking clutches do not always resemble the parents!)
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Re: Pied Genetics
Thanks for you answer still none the wiser if i should buy it.
Think it may be worth a gamble as i am looking a pair of double het pieds also.
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Re: Pied Genetics
A no white pied sounds cool as hell. I'd definitely get it if I were in the market and saw it. It WILL produce pieds with white. The amount of white is mostly, if not completely random, and the odds of a no white pied coming from any clutch have got to be pretty astonomical.
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Re: Pied Genetics
lol wouldnt a no white pied be a het? I mean the white is what makes a pied a pied
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Re: Pied Genetics
I've heard of more than one person actually trying to breed for no-white pieds, so that could be a cool project in and of itself Particularly if you're going for super-orange, high-contrast animals -- those look great no matter what the % white!
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Re: Pied Genetics
If i get the snake will put a picture up of him.
The pattern you can see its a pied not a normal it has about a patch of white smaller the 1cm square on it.
Was thinking of getting a pastel het pied to go with him.
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Re: Pied Genetics
The pied pattern and color is totally different from normal.
Does OP have a pic?
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