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    Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Ok, so here's the deal.

    I went to a small local reptile shop today. They have quite a few nice snakes and stuff there. While I am window shopping, I come across a tank of adult and sub-adult normal male ball pythons.

    In among the various normals is one male who positively glows! Light, bright, clean colors and very faded head with a big bright spot in the center, along with a bit of almost an arrowhead shape? I ask to see him. He's a good size snake, probably 400 grams+. And he's just beautiful. He's not just a "light normal" color, he's got a lot of cream and yellow in him. But, his belly isn't clean like I'd expect. In fact, although his belly is nice and white, he's got a dark pattern running down the very center of his belly, almost exclusively in his wide belly scales.

    Now, I know it's probably wishful thinking that he's anything but an exceptional normal, but I was curious. Does anyone out there have a fire or vanilla { the two morphs he most closely resembles } with belly markings?

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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Pretty sure naked bellies are a must have fire trait. I know all the ones Ive seen are white.
    Very least it could be a nice dinker .
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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Fire belly shot
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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    May be normal, but abnormal enough to not just be normal. Y'know? Worth working with, I'd say.
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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Quote Originally Posted by stevepoppers View Post
    May be normal, but abnormal enough to not just be normal. Y'know? Worth working with, I'd say.
    OR it could be a total normal, without pictures your just guessing, lol
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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Well, by the description... Even nice looking normals will pass that on. It's not just the morphs that are genetic.
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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Yeah, I really believe he'd pass that trait on, and it's very cool to see.

    I've seen LOTS of snakes with side belly marks, and even a few that it was across the whole belly. But I've not yet seen one like him, where the sides of his belly are white, and just the center was marked.

    If I can scrounge up the $75, I might just go back and get him. I bet he'd make some nice babies crossed to pastel or even Mojave.

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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    Found this picture in another thread discussing Black Bellys.

    Not that I'm crazy enough to think this one is related to them, but that IS what his belly looks like. I think it's cool.

    Gale

    Quote Originally Posted by het.pied View Post
    from another thread on this site.



    EDIT: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...t=65766&page=2
    thats the thread
    1.0 Low-white Pied - Yakul | 1.0 Granite het Pied - Nago
    1.0 Mojave - Okoto | 1.0 Vanilla - Kodama
    1.0 Pastel - Koroku | 1.0 Fire - Osa
    0.1 het Pied - Toki | 0.1 het Pied - Mauro
    0.1 Mojave - Kina | 0.1 Blushback Cinnamon - Kuri
    0.1 Fire - Mori | 0.1 Reduced Pinstripe - Sumi
    0.1 Pastel - Yuki | 0.1 Dinker Normal - Akashi
    0.1 Ghana Giant Normal - Tatari | 0.1 Dinker Normal - Kaiya

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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    I'd pick him up and throw him on a pastel
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    Re: Vanilla or fire have belly marks?

    haha.i bought that snake your talkin about.i just had to have it!i was just going to get rats and seen him and bought.he is actually 922 grams.

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