adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

[herekitkitty]

did you guys consider that the snake may have wanted to stay near her for warmth? i mean we are what? 98 degrees? thats like a real big soft heaty rock right there i lay down in my bed and let my snake crawl all over me and believe me she does it she curls up on my tummy too. its probably warm and comfy. sleeping with the snake is probably a bad idea though since you could roll over and stuff and not realize. but she said shes not gona do that again, so let it go. seems like she has a really loving home and a caring and concerned mommie. lucky snake

[Elise.m]

i dont get what the fuss is about we only have one issue now


the ball python fed so hes good but hes 3 feet and all he ate was 1 mouse

the other forum members say to wait till next feeding day (tuesday) to feed him 2 mice

I am just a bit concerned that he may be hungry still but we will wait if that is the best thing to do

it would be nice if everyone could just concentrate on the snake and not other things that dont matter as its our first snake and we wanna take good care of it

Just make sure you keep up on the husbandry and he should continue to eat. Ball Pythons are known for being picky eaters. Are you feeding every 5 or 7 days?

[wispurs]

did you guys consider that the snake may have wanted to stay near her for warmth? i mean we are what? 98 degrees? thats like a real big soft heaty rock right there i lay down in my bed and let my snake crawl all over me and believe me she does it she curls up on my tummy too. its probably warm and comfy. sleeping with the snake is probably a bad idea though since you could roll over and stuff and not realize. but she said shes not gona do that again, so let it go. seems like she has a really loving home and a caring and concerned mommie. lucky snake

THANK YOU!!! you seem to be the only one who doesnt think im crazy. Its so nice to have someone on here who has a snake that actually loves them as well. Im guessing the rest of these people have such nonchalant snakes that they cant comprehend having a snake that actually WANTS to be held, But some snakes actually do like the company, and whats more... I believe you are right about them knowing who cares for them and who wants whats best for him. Snakes are not as stupid as people seem to think they are. Maybe its all in how you treat them.

[exotica0095]

yeah i really think our snake is not like other snakes hes total original i mean hes got huge personality he knows the dogs wont hurt him and really seems like he loves us if you guys were here with us and the snake u would think so 2


we have not held him since hes eaten only lift his log to make sure hes ok today he seems a bit depressed cause he hid his head when we lifted the log to make sure hes ok, he might be a bit off cause he was expecting more to eat one mouse not good enough? the man that had him before tho told me it would be fine.

we are just excited that he takes dead feed because we both think feeding live animals to snakes is sick and cruel we are real animal lovers

[Kaorte]

How can you tell he is not like other snakes if you have never had another snake before?

One mouse per week is probably fine. I feed my snakes under 1,000 grams 10-15% of their body weight once per week.

So, how is dead feeding not "cruel"?

[exotica0095]

dead mice are killed instantly with co2 the alive ones are tortured to death


i have a friend that practices falconry with a red tail hawk and he will sometimes catch random snakes and throw it in with his hawk as a treat something i found pretty cruel and sick also but i guess red tail hawks love to eat snakes in the wild

[Kaorte]

Well actually the co2 does not kill them instantly. It basically puts them to sleep and then suffocates them. The whole process takes a few minutes.

When a snake constricts a mouse, it is very similar except for the sleeping bit. It suffocates to death, but it normally takes under a minute for the mouse to expire.

I don't have a problem with feeding frozen, and I don't have a problem with feeding live. But if you think it is cruel to feed a mouse to a snake, then no matter which way you do it, it is still cruel. In the end, the mouse still died to become food.

I am glad that you are okay with f/t though and that your snake takes it willingly

I wouldn't want to feed my animals wild caught prey...who knows where they have been and what they have eaten.

[blackcrystal22]

dead mice are killed instantly with co2 the alive ones are tortured to death


i have a friend that practices falconry with a red tail hawk and he will sometimes catch random snakes and throw it in with his hawk as a treat something i found pretty cruel and sick also but i guess red tail hawks love to eat snakes in the wild

It's not cruel, it's natural. Snakes have perfected their killing techniques for thousands of years. They don't suffocate or "torture" the rodent. They target the circulation system and stop the heart from beating. This prevents blood flow to the brain and any comprehension of what is happening.
Most people think that the constriction is associated with suffocation. That is actually not completely true because suffocation takes far too long to kill the rodent. If you time some of your snakes, you'll notice that their heart stops beating faster than it could from suffocation.

There is nothing cruel about nature's way of doing things. Cruelty is only done by humans, because we're the only ones that judge nature.

[wispurs]

[QUOTE=Kaorte;1346701]How can you tell he is not like other snakes if you have never had another snake before?

Well, I could be wrong but from what everyone says on this forum, they seem to think snakes are incapable of love, and that they do not lile being held, but only tolerate it..... Well my snake seems to LOVE me and WANT to be held by me...

Everyone else seems to think that this is not possible, wich would lead me to believe their snake must not act like this.

"So, how is dead feeding not "cruel"" ?

Well for one thing we are not picking up innocent living mice and having to watch them be cornered, attacked and killed all while screaming for its little life and dying a slow painful death. I do realize the food was once alive, but atleast it didnt die such a gruesome death, and was killed instantly by co2 freezing.

Would you rather die instantly.... or be bitten and squeezed to death while you screamed and pleaded for your life?

[exotica0095]

so i guess my friend taking ball pythons and corn snakes and throwing them alive in with his red tail hawk to rip up is not cruel either ???


what about those people in asia that put a cobra in with a mongoose


YouTube - Cobra vs Mongoose


mongoose eat these snakes in the wild so according to u i guess its natural and okay for them to do this as well

this is someones pet owl being fed a rat snake