Stupid Question..

[ameh78]

Ive been searching for the answer on this and for the life of me, cant find it..

What is the difference between a spider and woma?

From what i see - a woma has less yellow/white pigment and tends to have thicker black lines.

*edit in* also woma seems to mix with everything while spider traits arent really as noticeable sometimes?

So what is the main difference if you mix a mojoXwoma / mojoXspider

<nerd hat> ive been wondering this..but i kinda feel stupid for asking

[bsash]

I'm not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty sure that the Womas do not wobble like the Spiders do.

[J.KNOX]

Womas dont have white sides

[Adam Chandler]

Womas dont have white sides

Exactly. Spiders have white sides, womas don't.

[Serpent_Nirvana]

It seems to me that the spiders have a lot more variation than the womas do -- some are super-reduced pattern, some have spots, some have a solid black stripe down their backs, etc., etc.. I've seen some spiders that look a lot like womas but that seems to be just one variant thereof ... On the other hand, most of the womas I've seen tend to have a similar banded-type pattern.

What I would consider to be a "good" spider (in my book) would have a nice, light golden color with high white sides, which as others have pointed out womas don't have.

I also tend to prefer the "spider combo" version of things versus the "woma combo" version -- from what I've seen the "spider version" tends to be cleaner and brighter (or at least has more potential to be, if you use the right ingredients).

But, as was already mentioned the womas don't tend to have the same neurological problems AFAIK. So I have heard of folks working with womas instead of spiders if the neuro issues are something that bother them.

Basically, they're two different mutations that do kinda look somewhat similar.

(All of this assuming we're talking about your run of the mill "regular woma" as opposed to NERD's "hidden gene woma," which I really think ought to have a different name by now )

[HOFSKC]

I get asked this quite often at our facility from people who come in wanting to add pieces to their collection. The answer I give in most cases is that these two genes are different in that the Spider is a co-dominant trait in that there has never been a dominant form produced such as a Super Pastel or in the case of a Woma a Pearl. The Woma does have a dominant form that unfortunately never lives unless there is another gene included in the breeding such as breeding a Pastel Woma to a Woma. Pearls produced from a Woma to Woma breeding to my knowledge have all died with in a week of hatching, where as Pearls produced from breeding a Pastel Woma to a Woma live. It should also be pointed out that the Pearl from this breeding does not include the Pastel trait since there has also been Pastel Pearls produced. So to make a long story short while the Woma morph is somewhat similar to the Spider morph, it has a dominant form, while the Spider does not.

[davidnizmo]

good question i was wondering myself

[kellysballs]

I get asked this quite often at our facility from people who come in wanting to add pieces to their collection. The answer I give in most cases is that these two genes are different in that the Spider is a co-dominant trait in that there has never been a dominant form produced such as a Super Pastel or in the case of a Woma a Pearl. The Woma does have a dominant form that unfortunately never lives unless there is another gene included in the breeding such as breeding a Pastel Woma to a Woma. Pearls produced from a Woma to Woma breeding to my knowledge have all died with in a week of hatching, where as Pearls produced from breeding a Pastel Woma to a Woma live. It should also be pointed out that the Pearl from this breeding does not include the Pastel trait since there has also been Pastel Pearls produced. So to make a long story short while the Woma morph is somewhat similar to the Spider morph, it has a dominant form, while the Spider does not.

I think you are a little confused on the dominant thing.

Spider is a dominant gene. This means that the heterozygous form and the homozygous form look exactly a like and you cannot tell the difference between the two. Most spiders you see for sale and that are produced are heterozygous animals.

Woma is a co-dominant gene. This means that the heterozygous form looks different from the normal and the homozygous. In the case of the woma the homozygous form is called the pearl and it is supposidly (sp) lethal with all babies dying in the egg or shortly after they emerge (as you stated).

All and all they are two different genes that produce similar looking animals in their heterozygous forms.

[kellysballs]

p.s.

There is no such thing as a stupid question!

[Serpent_Nirvana]

Without even getting into the "homozygous spider" debate --

Has anyone proven that there is no viable homozygous "regular woma?" Or do folks now just avoid breeding woma x woma due to fear of the lethal homozygous "pearl" -- even though AFAIK that is the homozygous form of the "hidden gene woma" and not the "regular" woma?