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Selling You Snake Short
I see that some here are so hepped up on science and all, concerning snakes that they rule out the SPIRIT/SOUL of the creature. A body is just a vehicle for that soul. As with humans, animals have a soul and the do feel. Despite those who chose to believe such non sense and relegate them to a living automatons that doesn't feel, and only reacts to stimulation and primorial needs
Is that fair to believe that?
In my opinion that kind of belief is just as ignorant and destructive as those who believe snakes are evil and devils and such.
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Re: Selling You Snake Short
i hear ya. my mom is one of those people that believes snakes are evil (just because the devil disguised himself as a snake in the bible). i TOTALLY disagree with that way of thinking. if the devil had disguised himself as a cute little bunny rabbit she'd probly think those are evil too. she's...well...she's just something else.[shakes head & rolls eyes]
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You are entitled to your opinion on whether animals/snakes have souls or not. Since it cannot be proven to exist, it's always going to be just an opinion however.
People that believe that animals have souls exactly like a human tend to drift down the road to the "animals should have the same rights as humans" road evenually though. Not everyone does.. but it's a tendancy I've seen.
So then you have to decide.. do animals have lesser souls? Is it possible to have a lesser soul? Is a lesser soul less able to be a "person"?
All of the above is moot to me, I'm not certain people have souls, less certain animals would be burdened with such. First, you'd have to define "soul" and it's purpose.
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Re: Selling You Snake Short
Souls? No. But then again I don't believe that humans have souls, either.
A lack of a magic mysterious "soul" doesn't rule out sentience, though.
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I believe that ALL living things have a soul. Does that mean every soul can feel pain or feel emotion, no. Does it mean they are any less of a soul, no. But it does mean that we should strive to respect all living things and treat them with care.
You believe what you want to believe, but I will always believe what I want to believe. This is what I believe....
Snakes have souls
Snakes do not feel or display emotions
Snakes TOLERATE handling. They do not seek it out.
Snakes can get used to a specific person but that does not mean they actually like or love that person.
Snakes are to be treated with care and respect
And that is really all I have to say in the matter without going deep into my spiritual and religious beliefs.
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Re: Selling You Snake Short
Maybe it's becoming more clear. Arsinoe, do you use snakes in a religious manner?
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This is not a valid argument against tubs, because I'm 99% positive that's what this is about. Whether or not snakes have souls, they need to be treated with respect. This includes meeting their needs as best we can. Reading through some of your other posts, I saw that you had shedding trouble a while back, and saw a picture of your setup. You should know that unless you make major changes to that "habitat," your snake is going to have bad sheds, just like that one.
Are we finished with this yet?
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Personally I'm to busy trying to produce great looking, healthy animals for others to enjoy to worry about whether they have a soul or not. If that offends anyone that I'm not concerned with such thing then I'm sorry. I'll leave that kind of speculation to someone with far more time on their hands than I have.
Just my two cents
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I believe that ALL living things have a soul. Does that mean every soul can feel pain or feel emotion, no. Does it mean they are any less of a soul, no. But it does mean that we should strive to respect all living things and treat them with care.
You believe what you want to believe, but I will always believe what I want to believe. This is what I believe....
Snakes have souls
Snakes do not feel or display emotions
Snakes TOLERATE handling. They do not seek it out.
Snakes can get used to a specific person but that does not mean they actually like or love that person.
Snakes are to be treated with care and respect
And that is really all I have to say in the matter without going deep into my spiritual and religious beliefs.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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