Cinny or not?

[rabernet]

If that's her belly, I also have to say normal. Cinnamon-like, but not a cinnamon. My cinnamon has zero black on the belly - the entire belly is clear including the side scutes.

I hope that she proves for you though.

[broadude]

Looking forward to seeing any hatchlings that come from this pairing. Unfortunately, she looks normal to me, too. I have some normals that have clear bellies..she could be Het for some unknown genetic resulting in the clear belly..but I would not bet money that she's a Cinny, because she doesn't have the pattern..it's not just the color..the pattern is always there and she doesn't have it.



http://www.ballpython777.com/cinnamon/cinnamon.html

But I am glad YOU are pleased, the true test is if any Pewters drop from this or future pairings ..then you can say, "I told you so!"

[djansen]

IMO that looks like a cinny.

do you have a normal? post a pic of her next to a normal.

[Aes_Sidhe]

OK my few this One Looks very confusing... i had male looking very similar to Your BP and i was concern about him as well. The coloration was almost reddish-brown but because It don't have this distinguish pattern i say that was normal... i should dink him anyway but because moving i put him for adoption. Your Look more cinamonish that mine hopefully she's gonna Prove to You... Till then i say normal

[rabernet]

Very clear belly

So anyway thanks for looking. Enjoy guys.

The belly tells the story - that is not a very clear belly, there's pattern on the belly.

Look at item #7 in the Hunter's guide - THAT'S what a cinnamon belly should look like - with NO pattern on it at all.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=45652

[marct]

Something tells me that this thread is about to get ugly when dturner finally responds back to these posts...

I agree with everyone else. Looks like a cool expensive normal, but I hope I'm wrong. Can't wait to see a Pewter with your new animal.

By the way, are they locking? Usually with too much travel, I was told they tend not to lock until the next season.

[Sarin]

I still see a Normal. But.. PLEASE keep us updated on what hatches out - I am very curious to see if we're all wrong or not. Either way she's still a pretty girl.

[Big Gunns]

Come on guys and gals. It's threads like this that really bother Big Gunns. They're just not fair to either the seller or the buyer.....especially the seller.

BG can remember when Cinnies first came out and Greg G had them in Daytona. BG stared at them for 10 minutes and swore they looked like normals he had. It's one snake that BG will never say 100% one way or another from a pic.....especially a pic of an adult.....they're even harder.

BG will say this about Jonnyboys Hunter's guide Robin. Even Jon would agree that his parameters for a morph are not "set in stone". If you look at the last pic of the baby that you can see the belly, it looks similar to what this animals does as an adult. It doesn't have the same "flames", but it does have some of the same "look".

Big Gunns isn't gonna say 100% either way on this snake.


There's one question that BG didn't see asked. Was this animal captive born and by whom? Actually you don't need to answer that buyer. You owe us nothing really. If you're happy with the snake that's all that matters.

Big Gunns didn't really want to post on this thread, but he felt he must.

[dturner100]

Alright, No this thread isn't gonna get ugly.

I've seen MANY cinny's that vary alot. She is very distinguishable from any of my normals.

Also as I'm not a veteran in the bp world maybe I'm dead wrong, maybe you are all dead wrong, maybe she's a completely new line of cinny.

Also for the guy that quoted the hunters guide remember there are a few different cinnys and not all have the same style belly or pattern for that matter. My girl has a mojave like pattern.

The point is I like her alot. If she does turn out to be not a cinny in the long run I wouldn't be dissappointed for the fact that she's awesome as far as personality, she's an awesome eater. Next season she'll be ready to breed. I'm hoping to pair her with chuck the pastel in the pic with her.

So anyway I'm happy with her and glad to share her with you guy, and welcome all opinions. Indeed I got pissy on the first day of this post, but I think people are way to fast to jump the gun. I'm sure I wouldn't approve of the quality of each and every snake everybody else owns but they're my opinions and I respect yours as well.

With that it's been a long day ( drove 400 miles for a small colony of asf's ). So good night to my fellow ball-pythons.net friends.

[Sarin]

Glad you like her!! Looking forward to updates on her.