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    A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    So I have a couple normal females that locked with a male bumblebee a few times and I luckily got them when I got them I introduced my male het. albino to one girl and my het. pied male to the other. I have seen both boys lock with the girls several times now as well and I am now noticing a lot of ovulation behaviour with both my girls...my question is this, what is the possibility of my girls having eggs with traits from the bee male and my males? May be a stupid question but any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Luckily if they don't pop any bees I will have my boys and girls for my own bee project after the weekend but I am still curious if my chances will be much better, lol

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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Quote Originally Posted by serpentes View Post
    So I have a couple normal females that locked with a male bumblebee a few times and I luckily got them when I got them I introduced my male het. albino to one girl and my het. pied male to the other. I have seen both boys lock with the girls several times now as well and I am now noticing a lot of ovulation behaviour with both my girls...my question is this, what is the possibility of my girls having eggs with traits from the bee male and my males? May be a stupid question but any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers,

    Luckily if they don't pop any bees I will have my boys and girls for my own bee project after the weekend but I am still curious if my chances will be much better, lol
    If the bee is the dad you will have pastels,spiders and normals no bees.If the hets nailed them you will have possible hets for that trait.The babies will all look normal though.
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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Thanks joepythons, just so I am clear

    will it be one or the other or could the genes combine potentially giving me pastel, spider or normal possible hets?
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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Quote Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    If the bee is the dad you will have pastels,spiders and normals no bees.If the hets nailed them you will have possible hets for that trait.The babies will all look normal though.
    If the Bee sires it then you will get More Bee's, Spiders, Pastels and Normals.

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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Quote Originally Posted by serpentes View Post
    Thanks joepythons, just so I am clear

    will it be one or the other or could the genes combine potentially giving me pastel, spider or normal possible hets?
    If you see pastels and spiders the hets missed the mark .In my opinion its not a good idea doing recessive traits and co-doms on the same females.It makes things kinda crazy
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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    The genes from different fathers can't combine in the same baby. However, different babies in the clutch can have different fathers. All normal looking babies from these clutches would have to be considered just normals (not possible hets) because you'll have no idea who the father is. You could have a clutch with mostly spiders and pastels from the bee father, but the normal babies in that clutch could still have any of the 3 fathers. Similarly, even if there are no spiders or pastels or bees, some of the normal babies could just be normal offspring of the bee father.

    You could keep them yourself, knowing their background, but if you sell them, sell them as normals.
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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloanreptiles View Post
    If the Bee sires it then you will get More Bee's, Spiders, Pastels and Normals.
    Ok but whats the chances of hitting the bee then? My bad
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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Also just an addition to joepythons statement and correct me if I am wrong (as I said I am still a little rusty on my genetics, lol) but a bee x normal should potentially yield:

    25% - Bee
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    25% - Spider
    25% - Normal

    shouldn't it?

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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Here this site will help you. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/
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    Re: A little rusty on my genetics...help please

    Quote Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    If you see pastels and spiders the hets missed the mark .In my opinion its not a good idea doing recessive traits and co-doms on the same females.It makes things kinda crazy
    True lol, I just was not sure if the bee had took and did not want to miss out with the girls this season as they are huge, lol. I guess I could have waited on my mojo and spider males I pick up on the weekend to at least have a less crazy clutch lol but I am impatient . And the spider is going right to my pastel jungle female

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