Rate this bumblebee.

[broadude]

I'm trying to understand what your point is? That selective breeding is pointless?

Would I guarantee that they're not going to brown out over 30 years time? Of course not. But at three and a half years old, Winston still gets gasps when people see him in person (at 2000 grams). He is starting to get a little brown on top, but his yellow still is stunning.

If I'm not going to selectively breed with the goal to produce nicer and nicer animals, then I'm not going to breed at all - what's the point? Just to produce animals with certain genes just because?

That's great that you have a gorgeous animal!

No, my point is not that "selective breeding is pointless." I am simply being realistic that all Pastels will eventually brown out some brown out more than others and faster, but the end result is usually the same.

Carry on.

[rabernet]

That's great that you have a gorgeous animal!

No, my point is not that "selective breeding is pointless." I am simply being realistic that all Pastels will eventually brown out some brown out more than others and faster, but the end result is usually the same.

Carry on.

It may eventually be the same - but why would anyone strive to produce brown pastels, barely discernable from normals as babies?

I can tell you why, because some people don't care about producing the best that they can. They produce so that they can pump them out and sell the gene, not the animal.

Apparently there's a market for the lower quality pastels at cheap prices (under $100), but that's not the market that I'm targeting.

[JAMills]

I can tell you why, because some people don't care about producing the best that they can. They produce so that they can pump them out and sell the gene, not the animal.

Apparently there's a market for the lower quality pastels at cheap prices (under $100), but that's not the market that I'm targeting.

And that flood of lower quality animals at cheap price affects the attitudes of potential customers. Who then think that they shouldn't pay more than the average low ball price they see on lower quality animals for your Higher quality animals that you are asking a premium for.

I have experienced several of these people lately. They gave me total @@@@@@@ attitudes when I told them my animals were worth more to me than the low ball prices they offered.

LET ME TELL YOU, IT IS REALLY HARD NOT TO SNAP BACK AT THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE, AND JUST RESPOND AS POLITELY AS YOU CAN....