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    Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    So What are the differences between Lemon Pastel and regular Pastels?

    Or does it have to do with lines

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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    if you bought it from NERD its a lemon pastel

    anywhere else, including someone who bought it from NERD making it a lemon pastel, but that snake had offspring not produced by NERD, those offspring pastels are not technically lemons.

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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    if you bought it from NERD its a lemon pastel

    anywhere else, including someone who bought it from NERD making it a lemon pastel, but that snake had offspring not produced by NERD, those offspring pastels are not technically lemons.
    What? As long as it can be directly traced back to a NERD line lemon - it can be called a lemon. Winston is a lemon pastel produced from a NERD lemon purchased from NERD. I can link him directly through 8ballpython stock to NERD.

    His genetics paperwork also classifies him as a lemon pastel.

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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    What? As long as it can be directly traced back to a NERD line lemon - it can be called a lemon. Winston is a lemon pastel produced from a NERD lemon purchased from NERD. I can link him directly through 8ballpython stock to NERD.

    His genetics paperwork also classifies him as a lemon pastel.
    Selective Breeding in order to maintain the integrity of that linage appearance is just as important. If I can't tell your Lemons from my Jungles you better not be calling them Lemons..
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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    if you bought it from NERD its a lemon pastel

    anywhere else, including someone who bought it from NERD making it a lemon pastel, but that snake had offspring not produced by NERD, those offspring pastels are not technically lemons.
    So if I bought a Lemon Pastel from NERD, bred the lemon to a normal...or anything else for that matter...the pastel offspring would not be Lemons because they were produced in my home rather than at the NERD facility...?

    However, if I did the exact same pairing at the NERD facility, the pastel offsprings would then be Lemons?

    What if Kevin bred his Lemon Pastels at my house...? Would or wouldn't they be Lemons?

    What is going on here...
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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Selective Breeding in order to maintain the integrity of that linage appearance is just as important. If I can't tell your Lemons from my Jungles you better not be calling them Lemons..
    If she has the proof of genetics on hand...why wouldn't they be lemons...if they are offspring of lemons?

    I understand the selective breeding aspect you speak of...but, how do you know if you are breeding the Lemon to and acceptable normal? Do you have to verify it with Kevin before you breed them?
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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerhart View Post
    If she has the proof of genetics on hand...why wouldn't they be lemons...if they are offspring of lemons?

    I understand the selective breeding aspect you speak of...but, how do you know if you are breeding the Lemon to and acceptable normal? Do you have to verify it with Kevin before you breed them?
    Because Lemon isn't a separate gene from the Jungles/Blondes,Grazani, Bell ect.

    Lemon describes an overall appearance and quality of an animal. So a lemon that is "indistinguishable" from a Jungle or a Bell or other lines is no longer a Lemon Pastel, It is merely a pastel. They were selective bred to produce a certain look..As such that look must be maintained in order to maintain the name..We know this because NERD offers two different types of Pastel, Lemons and Jungles they can do so because while they are the same gene they are different examples of it through selective breeding.
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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Because Lemon isn't a separate gene from the Jungles/Blondes,Grazani, Bell ect.

    Lemon describes an overall appearance and quality of an animal. So a lemon that is "indistinguishable" from a Jungle or a Bell or other lines is no longer a Lemon Pastel, It is merely a pastel. They were selective bred to produce a certain look..As such that look must be maintained in order to maintain the name..We know this because NERD offers two different types of Pastel, Lemons and Jungles they can do so because while they are the same gene they are different examples of it through selective breeding.
    So if you purchase a Lemon Pastel and you would like to produce Lemon Pastels from the animal you purchased from NERD, how do you go about it?

    Do you have to ask NERD what to breed it to?
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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerhart View Post
    So if you purchase a Lemon Pastel and you would like to produce Lemon Pastels from the animal you purchased from NERD, how do you go about it?

    Do you have to ask NERD what to breed it to?
    If I was serious about maintaining the look of that animal...Yes I would ask what to look for in a counterpart when thinking about pairing. That's where the selective breeding thing comes in..
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    Re: Lemon Pastel VS Regular Pastel

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    If I was serious about maintaining the look of that animal...Yes I would ask what to look for in a counterpart when thinking about pairing. That's where the selective breeding thing comes in..
    So then it is possible to produce Lemons on your own from a Lemon purchased from NERD?
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